DOS increases appear to be around 1% per year...take cost of living into account and you're taking a pay cut every year.

Good to get a rig, though. 2:1 duty is ok, 1:1 for everything over 12 is excellent...the TAFB rig is still a little loose, Horizon got 4:1 and the company responded by building every line to around 400 TAFB . Dunno what your trips are like now.

Congrats on getting the company to stop stonewalling you. Your solidarity has been impressive the last few weeks.

 

Well i guess its a place to start... but the only real substantial baseline increase is in year one FO pay.... the rest appears at a glance to be a 2% overall increase..with 1% yearly increases....

Now the rigs... that could and will effect pay more than rates depending on what scheduling does in the future .... good luck guys

 

YES YES YES YES!

Thats all I can say. I started in June and am flying the line now. All I can say is Dang I got in at the right time.

I hope that this goes through with out any problems so we can be cornerstone of what could be a new tomorrow for ALL regional carriers out there.

Good luck to all carriers that are in negotiations!

~m

 

Congrats ASA!

I hope you approve it. It looks just like our pay "policy," but the majority of your hourly rates are higher than ours. It’s a HUGE increase for your 200/ATR CA’s. The pay rigging is going to work out great for you guys. You’ll easily credit 1100-1250 hours of pay per year while only flying around 900-950. If you push 1000 hours you’ll see credit returns around 1300.

Hopefully our pilot group will look at this and see that we need representation. Yes it took you guys 5+ years but it was worth the wait. Some SKW pilots will look at this without realizing it took us almost as long and out pay “policies” a joke. You guys have solid hourly rates and we have “Smoke and Mirrors” Block Overrides. SKW Mgmnt's suppose to be looking out for us; instead we make $19/hr first year and Block (not credit) Overrides. SAPA made this out to be a huge win, wake up SKW pilots! SAPA's a joke and this just goes to show you how much of a puppet they are for Mgmnt.

Congrats guys!

 

When does the ALPA vote end at Skywest?

The conspiracy theorist in me says SGU will offer to match Skywest pilots to the TA'd ASA agreement (at least the parts that exceed SKW's current "policy") in an attempt to keep the union off property.

 

BFD!!!!!

You are still asking people to prostitute themselves after having proven themselves by putting out 30 to 50K in training costs for their licenses and then getting the flight time to get the job. Reward them for gosh sakes.

Year 1
$ 23.00
$ 23.00
$ 23.00
$ 23.00

Year 2
$ 34.72
$ 35.07
$ 35.42
$ 35.77

This is more ALPO being fed to the junior guys by ALPA and its gaggle of wannabe negotiators.

 

I also wish those FO payrates were a couple dollars higher....they are below AWAC's concessionary FO rates from 2003 until year 5, albeit higher than XJT's payrates until year 4. A good thing for ASA pilots is FO wages beyond the probationary year are tied to 60% of CA wages, so no FO "b-scale".

ASA and all regional airlines, for better or worse, are an entry-level job into the airline industry with low-longevity payrates (unfortunately) reflecting that. Unfortunately the more large small jets mainline pilots allow to be outsourced to regionals the longer folks will be "entry-level" employees.

What do YOU desire for 50 seat wages, IronWalt? No flame, just an honest question.

 

Yes it would be nice to make $50/hr first year but it's not going to happen anytime soon. I'm not being close minded just realistic. Take a look at the regional business model and tell me where an RJ pilot can make mainline rates? The main reason for the regional growth was because of our lower cost. If we get mainline rates then it would be more beneficial for them to retain the flying and not pay the increase regional margin. I’m not saying it’s right, just that it’s reality.

You say BFD? Well it is for ASA pilots. This is a huge raise for their 1 year FO's, ATR and CR2 CA's. 95+% of the industry to kill for this TA. Do you actually think ASA would have come off so well is they had been bought by JO? No, instead they were purchased by SKW and now they have a top level contract.

I’m very happy for all ASA pilots and I wish them the best.

 

Looks just like what we have at skywest, -2% of course.

 

2% equates to thousands of dollars.