I know this has been discussed before, but I did a search and can't find it. For those of us who have been hired with low time (I had about 600) what does the future hold for us for majors, etc... after a few years. I have less than 500 PIC obviously, and never counted my dual recieved as PIC as most airlines do not recognize it. Does this mean I have to go fly the crap out of my brothers traumahawk or what? What is this I heard about part of your SIC going towards PIC, and is this only for ATP minimums? Places like CAL who want 500 PIC and 500 SIC, and other majors who have their PIC requirements.....what to do? I guess I should figure this out soon so I can fly the traumahawk as much as possible during the next few years haha......... Thanks

And what about those hired with 250 TT? I guess they would be in an even worse boat than myself?

 

Not to be rude or offend you, but I guess that's the price you pay for taking the quick road to the shiny jet. Getting into the right seat of an RJ quickly does have a cost. Either get some command time as a CFI, traffic, pipeline patrol, etc.. or worry about it later. You can't just skip it.

 

Ive got about 40 planes I can use for the price of gas, that is not a problem, just wondering if I SHOULD hop in the right seat of the grumman/piper/cessna again.......

Also I have in's at several places (parents, several family members) That is not the problem!!! My question is PIC time and having their minimums. CAL and others don't HAVE a PIC turbine minimum, obviously I have no chance at places that do (SWA, etc)..... Somone just answer the question on the SIC counting partially as PIC for the ATP, etc. Thanks

 

The likelyhood of being hired with no turbine pic is not good...even tho some have at CAL. For those who got hired with 250TT, its gonna be hard to upgrade if they dont even meet ATP mins. I think those regionals are going to figure that out soon enough, do I hear street ca again?

 

Probably. But the biggest concern to me is when these 250 hour guys start to upgrade and are in charge of a 50,000+ lb. jet having never really had to make a decision in an airplane. (Without a safety net)

 

The quick answer is that it will delay your upgrade by a few years and then delay building PIC time by another few years.

OPS SPECS (FAA Regs) at your company will outline required flight time breakdowns required for Capt. upgrade. I believe at some regional carriers it was 3500 hours TT to upgrade. After upgrade, you'll start building PIC time which will take more time to get to whatever the magic number is to move on.

 

Just because CAL doesn't have a turbine PIC requirement now doesn't mean they always won't. Things like that change with demand.

 

And if I am correct, NO airline counts Dual Recieved as PIC. I have over 500 PIC according to the FAA, but not to the AIRLINES.... So basically I need to wait at my regional to upgrade and build PIC by their OPSECS, OR fly our planes around for 200 hours to get the REAL PIC (not including dual recieved)

 

I don't know if there is a PIC requirement for an ATP but can't you just wait to upgrade at your current regional job? I must be missing something.

 

Not missing anything except that upgrade at my airline is around 5 years at least, and I have family members that said I am a shoe in once I hit 2000TT.... the problem is the PIC.... Guess im going to start flying our little planes

Back to my question about PIC NOT including dual recieved as recoginzed by the airlines for minimums????????? anyone?