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N2rotation 10-19-2007 04:21 PM

What does Air Wisconsin have to do with XJT and Australia?

fosters 10-19-2007 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by Flyboy8784 (Post 249975)
I just got a package in the mail from ALPA today with a lanyard and 2 stickers to put our bags....one says www.dowehaveafuturehere.org and the other says "Air Wisconsin: WE WANT OUR MONEY!!"

it's http://www.doihaveafuturehere.org

Flyboy8784 10-19-2007 08:23 PM

I guess i should have looked at that sticker while i was typing the URL :(

And i dont know what AWAC has to do with XJT in Australia.....but it came up....:confused:

dojetdriver 10-19-2007 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 249513)
Have you even seen XJT's contract before the current one? Blew like no other.

This statement is true. But have you ever ACTUALLY seen the last XJT contract yourself? Have you compared that to CHQ's previous contract?


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 249513)
RAH had the best out there esp since post 9/11.

This statement is not true. ACA had the best (pre-911) and a better post 9/11 than CHQ/RAH. COMAIR (pre-9/11) got a better deal and kept till recently. AWAC got a better one (post 9/11) and had to give, but if/when they get it all back it will be better than RAH. Albeit, COMAIR and AWAC had to give SINCE then, but saying that RAH's was the "best" since 911 is simply no true. CHQ's contract was good for them considering the climate it was negotiated in and what they were up against. But it was still lacking compared to the ones listed above. You can argue with me all you want. You simply were not there to witness it all first hand. I worked under one of the above listed, as well as followed what went on at the the other three very closely. Even after taking a concession, there are things that were still better than XJET's current CBA, as well as RAH's CBA.


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 249513)
Thank your current one for have our shoulders to stand on while being built. I don't plan on being here when our next one rolls out but it will be much better than XJTs current one. It's the nature of things. One set of years regional A is better and the next set of years regional B is better. They feed off one another to make each other stronger. Now come down off the cross XJT didn't do anything special with the contract they did what was predicted and expected. How much you wanna bet RAH gets rigs after ASA got them? It's what's to be expected. Natural progression.


UPS1856 10-19-2007 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 249320)
Chautauqua has a couple that use to be in Europe. I've wondered how they managed to get them here as well.

If you must know, they went:

Those planes were from Greece, they flew the "Blue Spruce route".

Greece to Pisa-Italy, Scotland, Iceland, Greenland, Goose Bay Canada and then they cleared customs in Bangor, Maine.

3 1/2 hours tops over the ocean segments in an ERJ MP.

cl601pilot 10-20-2007 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by UPS1856 (Post 250172)
If you must know, they went:

Those planes were from Greece, they flew the "Blue Spruce route".

Greece to Pisa-Italy, Scotland, Iceland, Greenland, Goose Bay Canada and then they cleared customs in Bangor, Maine.

3 1/2 hours tops over the ocean segments in an ERJ MP.

I've been waiting for that reply from earlier on in the thread. Its scarry that pilots, especially professional ones are having to try and figure out just how short range aircraft get across an ocean. I think some of the post should have stayed as inside thoughts.

But then again some appear not to have the real experience or understanding of the business that they think they have.

HercDriver130 10-20-2007 07:47 AM

I am surprised they had to make that many stops. I would have thought they could cut one or two out.

JoeyMeatballs 10-20-2007 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by HercDriver130 (Post 250245)
I am surprised they had to make that many stops. I would have thought they could cut one or two out.

well...........................not everybody has an XR ;)

ToiletDuck 10-20-2007 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by dojetdriver (Post 250171)
This statement is true. But have you ever ACTUALLY seen the last XJT contract yourself?

Yes I have a copy and if anyone wants a copy just pm me i'll send the .pdf over.

JoeyMeatballs 10-20-2007 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 250335)
Yes I have a copy and if anyone wants a copy just pm me i'll send the .pdf over.

Whats your point with how bad our contract used to be? I would rather be more concerned with what it is now.............

Maybe you should re-read your signature line at the bottom of every one of your posts


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