Washing out.
11-05-2007 | 07:36 PM
#132
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60hrs are you kidding that is alot I don't care how you spin it lets remember IOE is after at least 2 months of training. I know on the first leg or two your hanging on by the APU (i was) but by day 4 or even day 1 of another pairing things should start getting alot easier
11-05-2007 | 08:52 PM
#134
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11-05-2007 | 09:25 PM
#135
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IOE is not hard but the main thing its fast my first day was four legs plus a dead head crappy wx. Don't worry you will be way behind the airplane at first not only is it normal but expected after a leg or two you start to catch up. The hardest thing is listening to all the different things that need to be covered the instructors talk you to death as they should its a necessary evil but don't forget have fun.
11-06-2007 | 07:26 PM
#136
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IOE is all the things you didn't learn about that hit you all at once and have time limits. You're fumbling with paperwork and things like that. After a couple pairings you won't even need a calculator anymore to do weights.
IOE is just overall confidence. Once you aren't wondering if you did something right you can focus on your job and you'll find you have a lot of free time once you get in the flow of things. Usually people spend some time punching around in the FMS and learning a little more about things the manuals don't really preach. I remember calling for a cruise check and the captain looked at me and asked if I was serious because he hadn't done one in almost two years lol.
IOE is just overall confidence. Once you aren't wondering if you did something right you can focus on your job and you'll find you have a lot of free time once you get in the flow of things. Usually people spend some time punching around in the FMS and learning a little more about things the manuals don't really preach. I remember calling for a cruise check and the captain looked at me and asked if I was serious because he hadn't done one in almost two years lol.
11-07-2007 | 03:07 AM
#138
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paperwork......who needs stinking paperwork.
Seriously though..... IOE should be fun and challenging all at the same time. IF you know what you should know, the rest will come. Those that have trouble are the one who are not prepared or are just not ready to fly 30-40 tons of jet around.
Seriously though..... IOE should be fun and challenging all at the same time. IF you know what you should know, the rest will come. Those that have trouble are the one who are not prepared or are just not ready to fly 30-40 tons of jet around.
11-07-2007 | 03:55 AM
#139
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Make is easier on yourself and your ioe captain - jumpseat on your company aircraft as much as you can to observe other crews and their interactions. Ask questions! - Most if not all pilots out there will be very glad to give you all the info you want.
11-07-2007 | 03:58 AM
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...Seems they are not thrown into the briarpatch, and are mentored into the job (and we are talking extraordinarily experienced F/O's who were Captains with, often, many thousands of hours of command experience.(like many here on this board) So I would consider the regional 121's thinking that they need to mentor the development of professional aircrews, especially ones F/O's taken so early in experience. Every Captain in every cockpit should be doing the same. I am all for washing out incompetence, but our profession is more like a medical doctor, and these new F/O's should be treated as 'in residence'...
