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Old 10-25-2007 | 12:25 PM
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yeh, that sounds more in lines with trans states hard-balls tactics than expressjet's. Guess there are lil-evil imps at every company though.
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Old 10-25-2007 | 12:26 PM
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My 2 cents is to say do not give up till they make you go home. I have known many people over they years the have washed out of training with regionals and it has been a serious stick in thier spokes. From what i hear it is possible get hired again, but some regionals like skywest, asa, eagle and others will not interview you much less hire you if they know. This can be a very harsh and impersonal industry that way even if it is not your fault. I dont think 135 carriers care nearly as much these days though.

Call the PRIA people. I dont have the number but it has been posted.
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Old 10-25-2007 | 12:35 PM
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It's not the end, but you're going to have a hard time getting hired. A friend that washed out at TSA had one hell of a time finding work last year. He had 135 minimums but nobody would take him. He intereviewed at a number of 121 carriers and Skyway finally offered him a job 6 months after the wash.

Good luck, study your ass off. If it's too late for that, be honest about it. Regardless of PRIA or not, it could come back to haunt you if you lie.
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Old 10-25-2007 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RightSeatDude
Whoa.... did you bust a stage check for a second time, or did you bust your second stage check?
Second one busted. Just over stupid stuff though. I didn't completely understand the flight guidance till now. I am sure I am not the only one since there isn't a whole lot explained in our manuals. I have a meeting with training at four. Real nervous now. Even if they don't send me home, I have to be ready for sim at 2am and I have been up since 10pm last night. The ATR will be difficult if I have to do it at 2am.

I thought I was allowed 2 ATR's on the sims? Have you known anyone to wash out at this stage?
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Old 10-25-2007 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
I think you should be asking yourself why you really want to work for a company that treats you so poorly.

EDIT: Just read your post in another topic and realized you were at XJT. That sounds very uncharacteristic of the training department. A friend of mine from training also got very ill and had to go home for a couple weeks. They allowed him to return to training and join the class that was 2 weeks behind his. Either the climate in the training department has done a 180 or is there something else we should know?
Well our class was the last. Infact most of the people were canceld or put in a pool. They only kept 8 of us, the smallest in history, becase they had already given us a job offer after the interview. All throughout training they have been telling us that they are raising the bar on us and acting like we weren't really needed. Who knows though.

When I asked if I could go home, there were no other classes scheduled at the time. Now there is one Nov 5 and 12th.

Also, the training emviroment has changed a lot recently. I talked to a lot of upgrades and recurrents who said that HR has been overseeing a lot of stuff. I'm not sure if that is true but I am definately not getting that rumored loving feeling from training right now.

Well, almost four now. Time to go face the music.
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Old 10-25-2007 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by av8tr_2007
Second one busted. Just over stupid stuff though. I didn't completely understand the flight guidance till now. I am sure I am not the only one since there isn't a whole lot explained in our manuals. I have a meeting with training at four. Real nervous now. Even if they don't send me home, I have to be ready for sim at 2am and I have been up since 10pm last night. The ATR will be difficult if I have to do it at 2am.

I thought I was allowed 2 ATR's on the sims? Have you known anyone to wash out at this stage?
Two from my class washed out during the sims. ATRs are not to be taken lightly. I'm not sure who you're talking to in the training department but this sounds like a very unusual way for them to handle this. Are you sure there isn't more to the story?
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Old 10-25-2007 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by av8tr_2007
Well our class was the last. Infact most of the people were canceld or put in a pool. They only kept 8 of us, the smallest in history, becase they had already given us a job offer after the interview. All throughout training they have been telling us that they are raising the bar on us and acting like we weren't really needed. Who knows though.

When I asked if I could go home, there were no other classes scheduled at the time. Now there is one Nov 5 and 12th.

Also, the training emviroment has changed a lot recently. I talked to a lot of upgrades and recurrents who said that HR has been overseeing a lot of stuff. I'm not sure if that is true but I am definately not getting that rumored loving feeling from training right now.

Well, almost four now. Time to go face the music.
Best of luck to you. If XJT is where you really want to be, it might be worth trying to get bumped back into one of those Nov. classes.
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Old 10-25-2007 | 01:32 PM
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Back to your original topic, if you had withdrawn from training due to personal issues, that shouldn't show as a failure. I don't know how they show it, but no one would fault you. If you bust out now, it will show up and somewhat hamper your future career. Good luck and don't suck!
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Old 10-25-2007 | 02:22 PM
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I'm in training at ASA and they have told us during the interview that they won't hire anybody who has washed out of another company, and they are also very serious about helping everybody who they hire through training.

I personally wouldn't risk it.
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Old 10-25-2007 | 03:16 PM
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Yep just got done talking to the head of training. According to him there is no sick, emergency,personal, any type of leave, contrary to what we were told in the beginning. There also is no possibility of waiting for the Nov class. Infact, there was a guy waiting before me who had two ATR's and they sent him packing. I had to do a lot of convincing just to be aloud to stay.

I have to be back in the sim at 2am and pass. I don't know how I am going to do it. It is right in between a really long time to kill and too short of a time to sleep. At least I couldn't right now with the amount of caffeine I needed to stay awake for the 4pm meeting after this morning's 2am sim session.

I appreciate all the advice. It looks like once you agree to train you are commited to finishing and passing. This is definately not what I signed up for. Thank g-d for unions, otherwise I don't know how this career would exist.

Advice for those thinking of jumping on the wonderful regional bandwagon, be careful and make sure you are really ready physically, mentally, financially, etc...

Very sad, but I am starting to question if this is the right career for me anymore.
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