12 airframes.
IF delta chooses to buy new ATR's, they will go to ASA because we already have the program in place. If they go with the Q, somebody else might get them.

 

The ASA purchase agreement between SKW Inc and DAL was for guaranteed "flying" (not routes) through 2020. If DAL chooses to replace ASA then they must increase flying in other areas (1:1). If DAL decreases ASA flying without a 1:1 adjustment they will be in breach and that will cost then $125M which is the last installment of the purhcase price that is due at the end of the agreement. Of course the contract doesn’t specify which of SKW Inc 2 airlines must receive the positive flying. Essentially ASA can loose 1 block hour and SKW gain 1 block hour or vise versa. Also the gain can not be a previous gain post agreement seeing the contract also contains clauses for guaranteed growth (SKW Inc airline non-specific). At least this is how I understand it.

Unfortunately for ASA and NO OFFENSE INTENDED, their a Bastard Step Child. Newly loved none the less.

Giving 12 a/c worth of flying to a lower bidder without a 1:1 trade will cost DAL more money than they'll save.

 

Sorry to bust your bubble, but the TA will get approved, especially since 13.5 million will be distributed amongst the group (and captains will get 40% more than the FO's). People are greedy and want the money. I am mid list on the -200, and every captain I fly with is excited for their $. True, the -700 guys wont get much of a raise, but they are outnumbered by the -200 guys who will be getting a substantial raise.
And as far as Mesa getting -900's for Delta, well, Delta will regret this. Mesa is a piece of #hit (I used to work there) and they will cancel more flights than they fly (staffing) because nobody there cares about anything, and they dont know the first thing about running an airline.

 

True, don't for get the ATR guys, it's a huge raise for them as well.

As far as Mesa canceling flights. Ya, then SKW Inc will have to bail them out just like we did in ORD & DEN back in July & Aug.

 

Thank you for that proper prospective. The 200/ATR guys outnumber everyone else by a large margin. The TA most likely will pass.

Delta is almost binded to replace the seats on the ATR if it is gone. Whether they shift them to SKW or not is another issue, but i doubt that, seeing as it was a pain to get SKW out here to ATL, logistically speaking. Do not be surprised if a new equipment announcement is made in the next six months.

 

Ok who is flying them for mainline rates in the whole entire world??

 

Bringing SKW into any city is easier than almost anyone else, "logistically speaking." First we have the man power, second we don't have as many “hoops” to jump through, third DAL Ops and ground personnel were already in place, fourth SKW already had & was certified for the a/c and SKW is willing to go anywhere.......anytime.......for the right margin. Don’t forget that when DAL or UAL has need us we’ve been there with very few problems. And don’t bring unions into this, DAL wanted us in CVG around the time Comair went on strike, JA & Company didn’t want anything to do with that! We aren’t flying ASA routes in ATL, it was additional DAL flying where as CVG would have been crossing the picket line. We won’t do that regardless of whether we’re union or not. Jerry’s proven this!

P.S. Not that it should matter but I feel I must repeat, I voted for ALPA.

 

Not getting into a who fly argument my point is the aircraft is comprable to a DC-9 and should be flown for comparable rates.. if we dont stand up and start somewhere then they will be no change....

 

It would be nice...in a perfect world.

This isn't a perfect world, and that will never happen. It's wasted energy, constantly posting on it. Pick your battles, my friend.

 

Ill take your advice Experimental