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Old 11-03-2007 | 01:57 PM
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What company is MAG?
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Old 11-03-2007 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilot41
So it's OK that both crew members fell asleep and didn't answer any radio calls?

Agreed the rules suck, but nothing justifies both crew members falling asleep.
Must be nice to be perfect, I'm sure they planned on both falling asleep at the same time.
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Old 11-03-2007 | 06:50 PM
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Third if you've never worked at MAG then please keep your holier than thou comments to yourself. Its not so cut and dry. Oh and fourth I did move on to a better company.
It is cut and dry. If your too stick to fly or too tired to fly, you DON'T FLY!!! You are breaking the rules by not standing up for yourself. Don't make an excuse and say, "You don't know how it is here". Plenty off us have been painted into that situation and some of us chose to do what is right not what is convenient for the company.
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Old 11-03-2007 | 07:22 PM
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I gotta say, if you've been doing this long enough, eventually you will do the carpet dance for someone. I'm no saint mind you. Fell asleep at many an in-oportune time, but that was combat missions too. A bit different. Good luck with the management at that company.
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Old 11-03-2007 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
It is cut and dry. If your too stick to fly or too tired to fly, you DON'T FLY!!! You are breaking the rules by not standing up for yourself. Don't make an excuse and say, "You don't know how it is here". Plenty off us have been painted into that situation and some of us chose to do what is right not what is convenient for the company.
I understand your point and I agree to a degree. Problem is I'm not some 20 year old snot nosed kid with SJS who can weather a pink slip. I hate to tell you but you get them for FAR LESS at MAG than calling in sick.
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Old 11-03-2007 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Joeshmoe
I understand your point and I agree to a degree. Problem is I'm not some 20 year old snot nosed kid with SJS who can weather a pink slip. I hate to tell you but you get them for FAR LESS at MAG than calling in sick.
Scary stuff, Joe. I don't know how I'd work in an environment like that, afraid for the sake of my job of screwing up, getting sick, admitting fatigue. Just out of curiosity, what "FAR LESS" infractions do people get canned for?
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Old 11-04-2007 | 03:11 AM
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What company is MAG?
Mesa Air Group
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Old 11-04-2007 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Joeshmoe
First of all I wear my own headset as to not "contaminate" the set on board. Second I always keep a huge stock of antibacterial wipes that I would use to wipe down as many things as I touched before leaving. Third if you've never worked at MAG then please keep your holier than thou comments to yourself. Its not so cut and dry. Oh and fourth I did move on to a better company.
I'm glad to hear that you are one of the few who try to keep from spreading your "sick germs" around. And I'm not being sarcastic either. I'm not trying to be "holier than thou" - I've worked sick before too, learned from it (from the stupid mistakes I did while flying sick), and won't do that again. No need to put others and myself in harm's way because I'll be taking a day without pay/doing the carpet dance/fill in the blank. And, no, I've never worked for Mesa. I'm glad you moved on to a better place.
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Old 11-04-2007 | 10:47 AM
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Mesa Air Group
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Old 11-04-2007 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BYUFlyr
Holy crap! That makes me feel much better, I've been at my airline for 7 months and felt bad calling in sick for the first time; and I really am sick.
Why feel bad? I don't!

I'll ask you a few questions.

1. Is flying sick illegal? Bottom line, YES! You're impaired! If something happens do your really want to spend hours, days, weeks and months trying to explain your reasoning for risking safety. Think about how the FAA will look at it.

2. If you call in sick and can prove it, will you loose your job? NO, if so you have one hell of a lawsuit for wrongful termination.

3. Do you need the money? Probably but you need your career more.

4. What are you trying to prove? You have nothing to prove except that you can provide for yourself, your family and your future. It's your life not your companies.

Keep in mind, THAT'S WHAT RESERVES ARE FOR! And if they don't have the reserves then that's their problem.

Do you think, down the road, when you need something your company will think of all those days you went the extra mile for them? NO! Don't get me wrong, when I'm fit to work and at work I will go the extra mile for myself, my crew, my passengers and my company; and in that exact order.

Don’t worry about it and don’t abuse it, you’ll be just fine.
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