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12-04-2007 | 11:06 PM
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Yeah. It might take a labor lawyer to understand a contract and, if it is Mesa, it sounds like it might then take several more to get it enforced!
12-05-2007 | 03:01 AM
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I just wanted to let everyone know that I have reached my dream of becoming an airline pilot!!! I have been hired by Mesa!!! How awesome is that??? I can't wait to start, especially now that I have found out that they have canceled all vacations for pilots on the ERJ and CRJ for the rest of the year!!!
(I have not been hired at Mesa...just trying to lighten things up a little)
Seriously though, I read on Mesa's airline profile page on APC that Mesa had canceled all vacations for pilots on the ERJ and CRJ. Is management allowed to do that? Is that allowed in the contract? I think it's about time that Mesa pilots follow in the footsteps of Pinnacle pilots and send a message to management. From what I've read on here, it sounds like it's long overdue. How can the pilots there continue to put up with this crap?
(I have not been hired at Mesa...just trying to lighten things up a little)
Seriously though, I read on Mesa's airline profile page on APC that Mesa had canceled all vacations for pilots on the ERJ and CRJ. Is management allowed to do that? Is that allowed in the contract? I think it's about time that Mesa pilots follow in the footsteps of Pinnacle pilots and send a message to management. From what I've read on here, it sounds like it's long overdue. How can the pilots there continue to put up with this crap?
12-05-2007 | 03:59 AM
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12-05-2007 | 05:27 AM
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12-05-2007 | 08:44 AM
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Who are they going to send to collect it? Plus, how is a guy making $25,000 a year with college debt, rent, food, etc going to pay for it? Screw em', I have spoken with people who left there who are still waiting for their last paycheck. Why would even rampers, gate agents, etc. want to work for them? What a joke. I get disgusted every time I look at one of their pilots just thinking about what they have to go through and why they stay there. And yes, most Mesa guys I have come across have been nice. Although we had some guy jumpseat and not say hi or thanks. I guess since he was on United Express and can non-rev he chose to go that route. I only do that with gojet. Maybe he thought he was mainline? Those guys never say hi.
I'm certainly no fan of mesa, but you want to be careful with that training contract. Even though it is probably only marginally enforceable, if you don't spend the money on a lawyer to fight it, you could end up with a civil action and a judgement against you. That wouldn't look so good to future employers.
If you can legally get out of the contract, great, but I wouldn't plan on just leaving and ignoring it.
12-05-2007 | 09:33 AM
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BINGO! Mesa has no intention of honoring any contract with its pilots. Even when a grievance has been won, the company will resist paying on it.
12-05-2007 | 10:42 AM
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It appears that Mesa's management wants to use SELCAL to call pilots to, i.e. junior man them.....I assume.
Sounds like it's time to write up the HF!
Edit to add; I thought I heard once that some kind of VHF SELCAL exists. Not sure....
Last edited by Radial Song; 12-05-2007 at 10:44 AM. Reason: P.S.
12-05-2007 | 11:47 AM
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SELCAL is a function of the HF radio that allows ground stations to page the aircraft discreetly. Each aircraft has its own SELCAL code and when a ground station calls, you get a tone or two and the SELCAL annunciator. This features provides for the pilots to turn the volume down so they don't have to constantly monitor the racket on HF.
It appears that Mesa's management wants to use SELCAL to call pilots to, i.e. junior man them.....I assume.
Sounds like it's time to write up the HF!
Edit to add; I thought I heard once that some kind of VHF SELCAL exists. Not sure....
It appears that Mesa's management wants to use SELCAL to call pilots to, i.e. junior man them.....I assume.
Sounds like it's time to write up the HF!
Edit to add; I thought I heard once that some kind of VHF SELCAL exists. Not sure....
12-05-2007 | 11:57 AM
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SELCAL is a function of the HF radio that allows ground stations to page the aircraft discreetly. Each aircraft has its own SELCAL code and when a ground station calls, you get a tone or two and the SELCAL annunciator. This features provides for the pilots to turn the volume down so they don't have to constantly monitor the racket on HF.
It appears that Mesa's management wants to use SELCAL to call pilots to, i.e. junior man them.....I assume.
Sounds like it's time to write up the HF!
Edit to add; I thought I heard once that some kind of VHF SELCAL exists. Not sure....
It appears that Mesa's management wants to use SELCAL to call pilots to, i.e. junior man them.....I assume.
Sounds like it's time to write up the HF!
Edit to add; I thought I heard once that some kind of VHF SELCAL exists. Not sure....
Mesa mis-management wants us to do alot of things.... doesn't mean we do them, or will ever do them...
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