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Old 12-05-2007 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by meritflyer
I can see there is plenty of Kool-Aid over at SkyWest. You must've been one that voted out ALPA.



I catch your drift here..

Cant wait to see a certain Utah based company acquire the -1000's and ultimately keep the pay the same for -700, -900, and -1000 while supplying mainline with 100+ jets at a fraction of the cost. Great way to keep the pilot group healthy isn't it? Hope you enjoy SKYW enough to stay there for the rest of your life.


Very well said! I work at SkyWest and it amazes me when people have his mentality. But it's cool, because he is going to get his 1000 PIC and get hired at FedEx and be making 100,000 the week after hitting that magic 1000
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Old 12-05-2007 | 01:26 PM
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Over a year ago my pilot group voted in a BS pay proposal that wasn't even worth the paper it was written on (I obviously voted NO). It was good through 2011 but Mgmnt has now decided that they want to pay us more and is currently working to increase all of our rates by Jan 1st. Now show me another airline that would no that. They obviously don't have too but they WANT too. Not SWA, UPS or any other airline for that matter would think about such a gesture of good well until after their contract had expired. Yes the pay won't be what it should be but we’ll just have to keep working until it is and I’m in this industry for the long haul. Are you or are you going to whine and then cut and run?[/QUOTE]

HAHA yeah, ASA sheds the blood sweat and tears and skywest rides the coattails, they're only increasing your rates because ASA just fought for better! don't worry we will keep fighting for better and all you guys can just benefit from it! one day, it will come back to you, I promise one day they will stiff you and ASA pilot's will say we told you so. Skywest Inc's full intent is to make the two groups stand against eachother so skywest will never have a union and it sure seems to work when i hear things like this. Skywest's "goodwill" is a function of need, they need more people and they want to keep there pilot's no union. Hey if their sister carrier is making more then the pilot's might want a union to help them... anyways
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Old 12-05-2007 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by meritflyer
LOL!!!

Who are you dude? Jerry's love slave?
I didn't think you could and I can't say I'm surprise with your a juvenile response.
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Old 12-05-2007 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by meritflyer
Pilots drown themselves through supporting labor practices of certain airlines. You should know that.

I dont support certain "fellow brethren". Should I support guys at GoJet, Skybus, Virgin, TSA, or any other airline that accpets sub par everything in exchange to be called a pilot? We make our own beds.

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Hey there, Scooter. This post would lead us to believe you were done responding to posts in this thread, but that clearly isn't the case.
The profanity filters prevent me from telling you exactly what I think of you. However, I can say that the opinion of somebody who puts TSA and GoJet in the same category is worth approximately as much as what I just flushed down the toilet.
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Old 12-05-2007 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by meritflyer
LOL!!!

Who are you dude? Jerry's love slave?

Hilarious! Epic blast!
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Old 12-05-2007 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by meritflyer
LOL!!!

Who are you dude? Jerry's love slave?
No man he got sent to ATL!
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Old 12-05-2007 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingkangaroo
HAHA yeah, ASA sheds the blood sweat and tears and skywest rides the coattails, they're only increasing your rates because ASA just fought for better! don't worry we will keep fighting for better and all you guys can just benefit from it! one day, it will come back to you, I promise one day they will stiff you and ASA pilot's will say we told you so. Skywest Inc's full intent is to make the two groups stand against eachother so skywest will never have a union and it sure seems to work when i hear things like this. Skywest's "goodwill" is a function of need, they need more people and they want to keep there pilot's no union. Hey if their sister carrier is making more then the pilot's might want a union to help them... anyways
No this was Mgmnt 101. Don't give up the house in case they vote the union in and if they vote it down reward them. This how they've stayed union free for 35 years. It was well played my Mgmnt regardless of whether it was right or not.

BTW, for all those who have short term memory, I voted YES for the 1000th time.

Now spin it. Say I'm drinking Kool-Aid! That I'm Mgmnt!

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Old 12-05-2007 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingkangaroo
No man he got sent to ATL!
Thank you Jerry for paying for my move form PHX to ATL where my wife, myself and my little girl can be near our families.

Did your airline pay for your move?
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Old 12-05-2007 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JetJock16
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HAHA yeah, ASA sheds the blood sweat and tears and skywest rides the coattails, they're only increasing your rates because ASA just fought for better! don't worry we will keep fighting for better and all you guys can just benefit from it! one day, it will come back to you, I promise one day they will stiff you and ASA pilot's will say we told you so. Skywest Inc's full intent is to make the two groups stand against eachother so skywest will never have a union and it sure seems to work when i hear things like this. Skywest's "goodwill" is a function of need, they need more people and they want to keep there pilot's no union. Hey if their sister carrier is making more then the pilot's might want a union to help them... anyways
No this was Mgmnt 101. Don't give up the house in case they vote the union in and if they vote it down reward them. This how they've stayed union free for 35 years. It was well played my Mgmnt regardless of whether it was right or not.

Now spin it. Say I'm drinking Kool-Aid! That I'm Mgmnt! [/QUOTE]


No man i know you aren't infact i think you were the one who wanted the union the most on this forum. It just frustrates me the majority of the pilots at skywest think management is their best friends, It kills me that ASA gets just a little better and skywest will be matched, if both groups worked together we could get the best contract in the industry but ASA will only be able to get so much without you guys working with us, and trust me you will always get the raise after we do.
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Old 12-05-2007 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingkangaroo
No man i know you aren't infact i think you were the one who wanted the union the most on this forum. It just frustrates me the majority of the pilots at skywest think management is their best friends, It kills me that ASA gets just a little better and skywest will be matched, if both groups worked together we could get the best contract in the industry but ASA will only be able to get so much without you guys working with us, and trust me you will always get the raise after we do.
I agree, although SKW does have one of the best Mgmnt teams around, but we need a collective voice in order to keep them from whipsawing us. Without SKW being ALPA it’ll be impossible. Seeing we have no balls unless it comes to a union vote and then we collectively vote no. Sad!

As for the raise, no we will get a BS little raise to keep us non union and then a matching raise after we vote it down. Sad!
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