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Old 12-15-2007 | 08:48 PM
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Payscale aside...

BigSky street CA 1900 PIC time
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Xjet EMJ SIC time...
which is better for the "major" move and why??
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Old 12-15-2007 | 08:50 PM
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PIC time... well, because it is PIC time
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Old 12-15-2007 | 08:52 PM
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Ditto...'aint gonna get anywhere with SIC time (unless you get lucky with CAL or...?)

PIC is always better.
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Old 12-15-2007 | 11:58 PM
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PIC is all you really want.
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Old 12-16-2007 | 12:54 AM
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At least for my airline, as long as it's multi crew PIC, doesn't matter if it's a 1900 or a 747. You have experience coordinating a crew in a jet (turboprop) environment, you're just as valuable as somebody with experience flying "the big jets". Of course, that's only with us, but I'm pretty sure that most majors are similar.
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Old 12-16-2007 | 01:21 AM
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Personally, I agree. Which is why I decided to accept Big Sky's offer. With Big Sky offering street CA or quick upgrades (some as low as a few months), its hard to pass up. However they won't hire you as a street captain if you don't already have some 121 time (even if you meet the mins). Anyway good luck to you, and I hope to see around.
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Old 12-16-2007 | 01:30 AM
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How do the majors view TPIC time in a Metro flying 135?
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Old 12-16-2007 | 03:23 AM
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PIC time is PIC time and is what you want. I have 4000 hours of SIC time in 121 airplanes but have only just started to build PIC time.

Pilots at my company are getting jobs at majors with less total time than my SIC time but they have the magic amount of PIC.

PIC is the name of the game.
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Old 12-16-2007 | 04:22 AM
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I know that my focus has changed in regards to the PIC issue/"getting a job with a regional". I've decided to target those companies that fly ATR's, 1900's, Saab340A & B's, just to get the "coveted" 1000 Tprop PIC.

Just like everyone has pointed out PIC is PIC. Upgrades seems to come quicker, thus allowing someone to advance in their career at a pace I'm sure they'd be very happy with. This may mean flying for one of the "lesser known/admired/liked" regionals, however, when I look in the eyes of my wife and three year old....yeah...it'll be worth the sacrifice. JMO.


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Old 12-16-2007 | 05:52 AM
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you dont have to settle for a lesser known/admired/liked regional to fly a turboprop

Here is a list of regionals that fly tprops that i hear a better percentage of good comments over bad ones

American Eagle
Mesaba
Skywest
HORIZON
Piedmont
ASA

There are probably a few I missed and all are open to personal oppinions and each of the above listed airlines has its problems but IMO none of them are bottom feeders and fall into the categories you listed.

A turboprop is not a sacrifice or a death sentence, its just a different path. Especially with some of the newer turboprops out there we are not thought of as lesser beings because we dont cruise at FL300+
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