Republic vs Shuttle
#42
You're showing your narrow-minded youth.
Remember that in the end it's all dumb luck, if you don't believe me just ask any TWA, Braniff, Eastern, Western, Pan Am, US Airways, AA, UAL, NWA, UPS, FedEx, SWA or any other pilot who's been around the block! He took a chance and lost, respect his courage and that of everyone else who searches for a better life!
As I said, he thought he was getting in on the ground floor and ASA was in the middle of heated negotiations. On paper it looked like a no brainier, just goes to show you the grass isn't always greener.
Remember that in the end it's all dumb luck, if you don't believe me just ask any TWA, Braniff, Eastern, Western, Pan Am, US Airways, AA, UAL, NWA, UPS, FedEx, SWA or any other pilot who's been around the block! He took a chance and lost, respect his courage and that of everyone else who searches for a better life!
As I said, he thought he was getting in on the ground floor and ASA was in the middle of heated negotiations. On paper it looked like a no brainier, just goes to show you the grass isn't always greener.
I have 5 type ratings, I've flown 135, 121, cargo, freight, charter, etc. In both seats. I've been in an ALPA MEC and ran a succesful union drive. I've also been in airline management.
So, my "narrow-minded youth" opinion is that your friend did not do his homework before latching himself to a fleet at the end of it's growth cycle, where the most senior F/O has a late-2006 hire date. Not to mention a fleet who's death date was known before it ever came online.
If he wanted Denver, he should have only come for the RW certificate. With a little research he could have found out that there will be no F/O movement aside from light attrition and upgrades. The most senior F/O's on the CRJ have just been awarded captain positions, and those won't be effective until late spring/early summer.
Something tells me he came from Mesa flying the CRJ and wanted the 2500 bucks and didn't do any research outside of that. Who's fault is that?
He'll probably see an upgrade in two to three years and things will get better. You say he was hired in May, how long has he been on the line? 4 months? Tops? Did he think he was going to walkout of training with 16 days off and a commutable schedule?
That's one person's opinion who has been around the block.
#43
Easy there buddy, it's an easy assumption to make when someone makes such a ridiculous comment as you did.
Yes he should have, but hindsight's 20-20.
Mesa……..LOL!
Take a journey back a few posts and you’ll see half a dozen times where I said he came from ASA not MAG! The 2500 bucks is nothing compare to what he'll lose in the long run. It will take him until year 3 to make what he would have made in year two at ASA. When you add the back pay, first year rate, second year rate, reserve time and training pay; it will take him 5-7 years to make up his losses. I’m sure if he had to do it over again he’d still be at ASA but he's not the kind to complain. He accepts his situation and understands his mistake, dwelling is a waist of time and energy.
Yes, he will upgrade in about two years, he’s ex-Mil and very bright. He’s been around and by no means expected an easy road but almost a year of reserve at RAH? You for one should know that's almost unimaginable.
If he wanted Denver, he should have only come for the RW certificate. With a little research he could have found out that there will be no F/O movement aside from light attrition and upgrades. The most senior F/O's on the CRJ have just been awarded captain positions, and those won't be effective until late spring/early summer.
Take a journey back a few posts and you’ll see half a dozen times where I said he came from ASA not MAG! The 2500 bucks is nothing compare to what he'll lose in the long run. It will take him until year 3 to make what he would have made in year two at ASA. When you add the back pay, first year rate, second year rate, reserve time and training pay; it will take him 5-7 years to make up his losses. I’m sure if he had to do it over again he’d still be at ASA but he's not the kind to complain. He accepts his situation and understands his mistake, dwelling is a waist of time and energy.
Yes, he will upgrade in about two years, he’s ex-Mil and very bright. He’s been around and by no means expected an easy road but almost a year of reserve at RAH? You for one should know that's almost unimaginable.
#44
Go Republic, the training program is reasonable. You don't need to know how many fan blades are in a CF34 8E5 becuase you can't do anything with them when you are sitting 25 feet in front of it at 35000' anyway.
This will fire everyone up, the 145's will be gone by the time you upgrade anyhow. Why learn 2 planes?
This will fire everyone up, the 145's will be gone by the time you upgrade anyhow. Why learn 2 planes?
#45
Yep....not a lot of button pushing in the 170.... just alot of making sure the buttons are still in their AUTO position so that "system logic" can do it all for you. We actually do mess with the hydrauilic pumps a bit.... and well we still turn the lights on and off...... and well there is TONS of button pushing with the FMS and Guidance Panel ......Embraer was nice enough to put a couple of yokes in the cockpit but I am not sure why.... between the autothrottles and everything else its a flying PC. 
All kidding aside it is very very automated and "the company" encourages the use of automation to the fullest.......
As for CMH.... i am on the Shuttle cert and just got CMH.....you can have my slot..... just as soon as they let my rebel butt back to ATL....
p.s.......SIM 6 tonight.....oh and squeezed in between or 11pm to 3am sim last night and tonights 11pm sim ....we have the oral portion of our checkride.... hum.....what was that limitation again.......

All kidding aside it is very very automated and "the company" encourages the use of automation to the fullest.......
As for CMH.... i am on the Shuttle cert and just got CMH.....you can have my slot..... just as soon as they let my rebel butt back to ATL....

p.s.......SIM 6 tonight.....oh and squeezed in between or 11pm to 3am sim last night and tonights 11pm sim ....we have the oral portion of our checkride.... hum.....what was that limitation again.......
#48
And JetJock your friend did it to himself. He can leave if he doesn't like it. All the information needed about the CRJ was available upfront and any amount of research would have given him the full story on what was going on. The company had already said what bases they would be in. I know because I knew all that information prior to applying.
#49
Well I'll take IND then ORD cause its an easy commute from SDF. CMH, I dunno. But first choice is whatever has the least reserve!!!
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