I've been told 3000 pilots by the end of the year. Just what I hear, as I said who knows? I don' think it'll be 2 years unlessyou want to hold certain equipment in a certain base. A lot of people do and are happy holding top lines in the left seat. That is what puts Captains in the 1300 range.

For reference, I was 1750 something when hired 8 months ago I am in the 16's high 15's now. Be nice if they had a accurate senority list. You and I have heard the same things, 190's for Delta and Airways, expansion at Frontier. These are all added seats. It is an interesting time to be here. I think you'll see attrition go up as well if the other companies are going to be able to keep hiring. The mickey mouse BS management is driving people out in droves.

PS: I think I can handle the simple math, thanks.

 

I have heard that their fail / drop out rate was relatively high in training, I heard something like 30%. Does this mean if you don't make it you still owe them 15K? Is it just when your hired that the contract is valid? It would be double jepordy to not have a job and owe them money on top of it all.

 

Don't see how this even makes sense....190's at Airways are already mainline and I'm certain they would be mainline for DAL as well. Can't see DAL pilots bending on that.

 

lol.......15 years ago.. mainline pilots said regionals would NEVER fly jets........

 

You only are commited to the note if you complete training, IOE and all. You need to be line qualified. The republic training, if you can't pass it you really don't deserve to be there. I know a couple of idiots on the CHQ certificate, so I can't imagine its too hard. As for shuttle, I know of a couple people not making it through that. Bottom line, know how to fly and all you need to do is learn a new aircraft and how they want you too fly it.

For 190's, I do NOT want to see them here. Frankly I think it will happen. The 190 guys at airways will all go to group 2 aircraft and a raise. The 190's will get flown cheaper because our current contract has fire sale wages on aircraft that they never imagined they would see. The new contract had better have some real language and pay rates in it for 190's and I mean FO's as well. The capt rates are not too bad, the FO rates are an insult to the industry.

X-jet Check airman are getting trained on 190s as we speak, I would say they are looking to put them on the branded flying but they are doing work for delta as well. 50 seat aircraft are going away, companies like Republic, skywest and many of the others will either evolve or disolve. I for one see evolution. If you have crystal ball that says whats going to happen speak up. Otherwise until you are sitting in it all of this is only speculation. Like I said earlier I am only passing on what I am hearing. And that is not a slow down in hiring or upgrades at Republic.

 

and its those same pilots who dropped the ball and allowed the regional airline industry to blossom into what it is today! way to go dinosaurs!!!!

 

Scary...we can debate the pro's and cons of that all day... all I am saying is people who make statements such that "XYZ" pilot group will NEVER relax their scope further... well thats just folly.... they have in the past and very well could in the future. Only time will tell.

 

true dat homie!

 

I was in the may 30th crj class. Jet Jock RM was in my class. Just to clarify a few things when we interviewed Linda B stood up in front of the class and told us the crj was half staffed. While I dont doubt that at the exact moment she made that statement the plane may have only been half staffed, by the time we finished ioe the plane was certainly fully staffed. Things could be much worse than being stuck on reserve forever in IAH. You could be stuck on reserve forever in a CRaPpy city in northeast mexico like myslef. I have averaged about 35 hours a month on reserve with my best month just over 60 and my worst was 6. There was no way to research the fact that my class would have been the last to go through for a long while. They said it was half staffed and we assumed that there would be movement. I will never assume anything ever again. The majority of us did feel lied to about that aspect of the job. I of course wish it was not company policy not to let FO's switch planes. I of course wish I would have tried to get swithced to a different plane before class, but I did not even suspect that I would have been in the last class. Now with all that being said there is no way in hell i would consider leaving this place. I am at a stable company with diversified codeshares, quick upgrades, and work rules that are not terrible. If I could go back in time to before class started knowing I would be on reserve this long I would do it over again in a heartbeat.
Another thing to keep in mind is all but two CRJ fo's were hired between 10/19/06 and 05/30/07. With upgrade times the way they are the majority of pilots have either gotten an upgrade award date, or will sometime soon unless of course they hold out for a more senior plane or base or dont have 2500 total. If you do want to come here on the crj for either the bonus or because of an unhealthy texas obsession now is the time to do it there will be movement soon.
As to what will happen in the fourth quarter of 08 if and when 7 crj's are pulled is anyones guess.

Lets Go Mets

 

I have over 1200 hrs. I wonder if thats why they assigned me the E145 since they are "upgrading at 1.2 yrs". You think its because they need Capts so bad? What is the 1500 hrs you are refering to? Is that what they want to be a 170 fo?