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Originally Posted by AZFlyer
(Post 295689)
I can comment on upgrade times in that I've seen newhire FO's reach CA in 10-14 months. And these were guys that were hired with around 300TT.
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
(Post 295791)
I don't believe that's even legally possible. Granted I meet all the requirements for CA upgrade so I'm not counting pennies here but don't you still need 2500hrs to hold the ATP and be CA for any 121 operator?
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Outlaw is correct.
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Yea, it's 1500 total, plus the other time reqs like XC time, 250 pic min (of which you can use some SIC time toward) etc. Most crews are getting about 100 plus hours a month, and close to the 1200 per year (part 135 rules) so it does seem like 10-14 months is accurate.
Overall, I've enjoyed my 5 years. 3/4 of it has been in the training dept, so pay isn't as bad. The flying is fun, the machines are tanks (when they're not broke), and your instrument proficiency and knowledge will excel. Sounds like you may have an idea for extra income, so nice job on looking at all of your options. Good luck in your decision. |
Originally Posted by wmarti31
(Post 295754)
I believe it is. I know a few guys that work for Lakes and they say that the company will train you to be a captain because you would move to the left seat once you have the time. I will be starting at Lakes within a couple of weeks (not flying). I heard that a lot of low timers get in as ramp agents, meet someone who would walking their resume, and get hired as FO’s within a few months. For the FO position, lakes states “Recommendation from current staff pilot weighed heavily.” Also, keep in mind that they don’t pay you during training.
(also, a seemingly little known fact is that you will be paid during training if you are already a ZK employee. i.e. customer service agent to pilot. 40hrs of pay/week at whatever your wage was, I *believe*) |
Originally Posted by EMB120IP
(Post 295800)
Most crews are getting about 100 plus hours a month, and close to the 1200 per year (part 135 rules) so it does seem like 10-14 months is accurate.
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Lakes is 121, however operators with 19 or less seats may use 135 flight time regulations.
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Originally Posted by VTcharter
(Post 295900)
Lakes is 121, however operators with 19 or less seats may use 135 flight time regulations.
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Lakes was my first airline. From what I hear, not much has changed in the last 8 years.
Lakes was a lot of fun. The crews were great, the flying was challenging, and management treated us like dirt. That really pulls the employees together. You will be flying a B1900 in the mountains with no autopilot. Training has always been excessively (and needlessly) difficult compared to similar carriers, and at least when I was there, the instructors were more like drill sergeants than instructors. Maybe that's changed. Regardless, you will fly your butt off, upgrade quick, and hopefully get your butt out. One thing of note, many jet regionals like ASA have minimums similar to Lakes. ASA may suck, but it's still better in a CRJ at 350 than playing flight attendant in a B1900 with 10 deferrals and no autopilot. Oh and our FO pay is more than Lakes Captain pay. |
Originally Posted by VTcharter
(Post 295900)
Lakes is 121, however operators with 19 or less seats may use 135 flight time regulations.
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