Well he is a Sig Ep. :eek: LOL! :D

Attack on Skywest.
 

Hey guys, checkout the thread titled: A sign of things to come. It’s a bunch of guys that want the regional airline service to end. What a bunch of selfish people.

Do you really think there will be a large net loss of jobs?

Do you really want to spend your career at a regional?

Do you not realize the bigger the mainline is the more mainline jobs there will be and therefore the less regional lift and regional jobs required?

I wanted regionals to go away when I was working at a regional...its not selfish, its looking at the long-term BIG PICTURE.

Do you really consider CMH to DEN regional? How about ORD ot MIA?
Or ORD to AUS.......

Yes some of the routes now flown by small jets use to be flown by REGIONALS but by and large regional meant.... RDU to ORF, JFK to BDL... Jetstreams, Shorts and Saabs......The lines have been blurred by the industry.....

If people think that SKW is going to be that only regional to have flying upgraded back to mainline then they're in for a very rude wakening.

Although not every line will be upgraded, mainline will cherry pick to improve their profitability and if it doesn’t work out then expect a return of larger regional jets.

I for one am EXTREMELY HAPPY to see the industry turning back in house. I am very excited and I feel that our futures are looking brighter seeing that the overwhelming majority of us have dreams of one day making the move to mainline.

ok so the bottom line out of all this is that skywest should vote in the new pay package. why?

1. theres no solidarity there and theyre going to do it anyway
2. they cant negotiate for anything better than that
3. many skw pilots apparently want to make that place a career

good luck to you. as a former skw pilot i really care what happens to you guys i just hate to see you get shorted even if you are an industry leader.

i think many at skw needed to see this proposed pay. They had believed their management would "do the right thing" and couldn't understand why so many other pilot groups were upset over the alpa vote. Management cool aid is meant to keep labor unions out and keep labor costs down. Management won. Many of their pilots believed they would have industry leading or matching pay and kept repeating "wait till the pay rates come out in January..." ... this should be all the reason more to get organized at skw. Those that had the red lips from the kool aid might take a more realistic look at their situation. the answer might not be alpa but something needs to happen.

I wouldn't go as far as saying that they are "an industry leader.";)

I guess it's all in how you define "an industry leader." ;)

Yes because of having no representation, thus having no real bite, we don't lead the industry in negotiations but you could say that we lead in industry in Kool-Aid drinking. LOL! :D

well this pay proposal is not going to infuriate the skw pilots and cause them to organize. that would just be way too ideal. instead theyll vote it in and continue to defend or justify the crap theyre being fed. and yes they are a leading regional airline, but i didnt say pay-wise.

even if you like where you work, you can still stand up every once in a while for yourselves. theres no shame in that.

Well, I wouldn't have put it that way.

I was just saying that I wouldn't say they are an industry leading regional. You can make an argument that they are but I wouldn't make it. And that is my point. Skywest is a good regional but it could've become a regional with top pay and work rules enforced by a contract and federal law and thus be indisputably, with no doubt about it, overwhelmingly, hands down, thee industry leader. That is what is sad about this.

not saying its THE leader, its A leader. and not because of pay or QOL, but because they have a huge amount of flying

...and quick upgrades!

...and gouda flavored cheddar!

.....and a large number of HOT FA's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep, yep, gotta give you that one as well.;)

And the best United rampers in the system!

Started a new thread with this, but since this seems to be the only thread being read on the subject:

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I voted 'Decline' on the SKYW pay proposal this morning.

First of all, it is a net pay decrease for me, a 2nd year FO. A 0.32% [11 cent] increase in my base rate coupled with a decrease of 1% in BHO (from 6% to 5%)

I want first year FOs to get the 2.50/hr raise. I think it's a necessity to attract talent currently choosing other regional airlines with higher first year pay. I think the company will do this anyway. I don't want to pay for it, though. Management has negotiated a SAPA-certified way to pay for it -- via 2nd year FO pay.

If they want this passed, porking the 2nd year FO is pretty stupid since 2006 hires comprise a rather large hunk of the CRJ pilot group.

That's only my first reason.

I love SkyWest and encourage anyone to get on board, but a 1% COLA????? That's just blatently retarded. That's retarded to me and I haven't been here through the 'DEAL-ME-AN-ACE' and other pay freezes.

Why hasn't anyone considered doubling the OPS/PER awards percentage? That way if the company makes more money, we get more money. A fair way to get our share when times are good, and not screw ourselves when times are lean.

All I can say is Ha Ha Ha... rob Peter to pay Paul
..Screw the 2nd year FO to give a raise to the 1st year FO Classic balancing of the Books.. I just love it....

Yeaaaaaa.............! I commute through Den alot and man can I tell you....... Den and Cos has a ton of them!

Come on over to SLC... plenty of hot FA's. Also, with an extremely high turnover, there's always new blood.;)

Yes, since 1990, the average inflation rate has been between 2.9 and 3.0% (sorry can't remember the exact 100th)

Which is why a 1% COLA is rediculous.