ASA this Fall
06-17-2009, 08:28 AM
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ASA this Fall
Where do you see ASA this fall?
Currently we already know how our staffing levels are playing out. We also understand why they never called the furloughs back. The 20, CRJ200s probably will have a home, at least management seems certain. If all the pieces fall into play, do you still see them slimming more pilots? Does it take more pilots to run 20 CRJs at a different airline (possibly even another base) then if we kept them here in ATL for Delta?
Just wondering...
Currently we already know how our staffing levels are playing out. We also understand why they never called the furloughs back. The 20, CRJ200s probably will have a home, at least management seems certain. If all the pieces fall into play, do you still see them slimming more pilots? Does it take more pilots to run 20 CRJs at a different airline (possibly even another base) then if we kept them here in ATL for Delta?
Just wondering...
06-17-2009, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by JustAnotherPLT
Where do you see ASA this fall?
Currently we already know how our staffing levels are playing out. We also understand why they never called the furloughs back. The 20, CRJ200s probably will have a home, at least management seems certain. If all the pieces fall into play, do you still see them slimming more pilots? Does it take more pilots to run 20 CRJs at a different airline (possibly even another base) then if we kept them here in ATL for Delta?
Just wondering...
Currently we already know how our staffing levels are playing out. We also understand why they never called the furloughs back. The 20, CRJ200s probably will have a home, at least management seems certain. If all the pieces fall into play, do you still see them slimming more pilots? Does it take more pilots to run 20 CRJs at a different airline (possibly even another base) then if we kept them here in ATL for Delta?
Just wondering...
06-17-2009, 08:56 AM
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they dont have a plan for them. their master "plan" is for mesa to go under and then hopefully someone will need more 50's. thats why they keep saying, "we dont have any flying for them, but were confident we'll find something."
but to answer the question, i dont think much will change (staffing wise) in the fall. they will most likely wait until spring when the fate of the planes will be decided.
This is all just me guessing
but to answer the question, i dont think much will change (staffing wise) in the fall. they will most likely wait until spring when the fate of the planes will be decided.
This is all just me guessing
06-17-2009, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TP199
they dont have a plan for them. their master "plan" is for mesa to go under and then hopefully someone will need more 50's. thats why they keep saying, "we dont have any flying for them, but were confident we'll find something."
but to answer the question, i dont think much will change (staffing wise) in the fall. they will most likely wait until spring when the fate of the planes will be decided.
This is all just me guessing
but to answer the question, i dont think much will change (staffing wise) in the fall. they will most likely wait until spring when the fate of the planes will be decided.
This is all just me guessing
This sounds like what XJT management kept telling the pilot group after CAL announced they would be pulling 69 aircraft from the CAL fleet. The only flying they ever found was the Branded Flying, & that lasted only a year before getting the ax. The 50 seater is dying fast, particularly in the DAL world. Good Luck guys.
06-17-2009, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
This sounds like what XJT management kept telling the pilot group after CAL announced they would be pulling 69 aircraft from the CAL fleet. The only flying they ever found was the Branded Flying, & that lasted only a year before getting the ax. The 50 seater is dying fast, particularly in the DAL world. Good Luck guys.
06-17-2009, 02:25 PM
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Well, they can furlough a bunch more to reach the limit of guys not on the protected list.
Why is ASA the only other DCI expected to feel the pain (Comair) of the 50 seat loss? Why not add Pinnacle, Mesaba and CHQ to the list...
Also, Delta still needs feed. They are not replacing 50's with more 70's/90's, so it stands to reason that not such a drastic amount of 50's can/will be shed! Delta needs the hubs fed, and right now the 50 does the bulk of this feeding. Take it FWIW.
Why is ASA the only other DCI expected to feel the pain (Comair) of the 50 seat loss? Why not add Pinnacle, Mesaba and CHQ to the list...
Also, Delta still needs feed. They are not replacing 50's with more 70's/90's, so it stands to reason that not such a drastic amount of 50's can/will be shed! Delta needs the hubs fed, and right now the 50 does the bulk of this feeding. Take it FWIW.
06-17-2009, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Truman_Sparks
Also, Delta still needs feed. They are not replacing 50's with more 70's/90's, so it stands to reason that not such a drastic amount of 50's can/will be shed! Delta needs the hubs fed, and right now the 50 does the bulk of this feeding. Take it FWIW.
I wouldn't put too much on the fact that 50 seaters will continue to survive and thrive in the DCI fleet. This is from an employee online chat with Steve Gorman, EVP and COO of Delta.
Steve said... (Jun 10, 2009 1:14:52 PM)
Pre-submitted Question: What is the RJ Fleet Plan?
Answer: We still have too much 50-seat lift. That said, we have either negotiated or have natural lease returns of 50-seaters over the next few years of: 2009 - 21 (plus another 10 Saabs); 2010 - 35; 2011 - 24; 2012 - 44. Even with that aggressive return schedule, we may seek to return 50-seaters earlier and are working on deals for that now.
Sorry for the bad news.
06-17-2009, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Truman_Sparks
Well, they can furlough a bunch more to reach the limit of guys not on the protected list.
Why is ASA the only other DCI expected to feel the pain (Comair) of the 50 seat loss? Why not add Pinnacle, Mesaba and CHQ to the list...Also, Delta still needs feed. They are not replacing 50's with more 70's/90's, so it stands to reason that not such a drastic amount of 50's can/will be shed! Delta needs the hubs fed, and right now the 50 does the bulk of this feeding. Take it FWIW.
Why is ASA the only other DCI expected to feel the pain (Comair) of the 50 seat loss? Why not add Pinnacle, Mesaba and CHQ to the list...Also, Delta still needs feed. They are not replacing 50's with more 70's/90's, so it stands to reason that not such a drastic amount of 50's can/will be shed! Delta needs the hubs fed, and right now the 50 does the bulk of this feeding. Take it FWIW.
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