Come on over to SLC.... we do it to each other ! Kinda weird, actually. I don't think that they're "tools" for doing so. Who knows, maybe their cat just died?

At the smaller domiciles, this isn't a factor. Just like the friendliness of a small town over the indifference felt in a larger one, I think that's what's at work.

Let's see... kicked out twice..... I wonder if the problem is SkyPest, or you?

I'm sure anybody would be happy to add 40 pounds to politely tell a challenging jumpseater to go bye bye.

The only Pilot that I won't give a nod of respect to is a GoJet one.

Bad choice of words on my part Tony, as far as "kicked out", I meant to say the weight/balance didn't work. Have never been anything but professional and polite, despite any problem with the jumpseat. I can make 40 pounds disappear faster than Britney Spears loses her panties just to make sure a guy gets a ride home.

Who knows, maybe as previously mentioned they were new captains and just going by the book.

Sonic it depends on the Flavor of the Day some guys are very anal about that sort of stuff, how ever I agree with you 40lbs can be lost by dropping getting configured early, a little bit of spoilers ect ect.. some guys dont feel comfortable doing that unless its the last day for them on the last day of a 4 day trip and they want to get home then they would not mind you Thinking outside the box..

for the RECORD I have never Left anyone behind because of w/b maybe I am just lucky

No need to burn extra fuel in that case - this has nothing to do with that...you doctor the paperwork is all.

exactly, considering the passenger weight and baggage estimates that you use anyway to do a w/b, youd be lucky if you were even within 1000 lbs of actual weight. but thats good enough for performance numbers since theyre conservative anway. thus the reason you should never leave a jumpseater behind :)

I wouldn't doctor any paperwork. There are several legal ways to get them on, especially if it was that close. Depending on the company, get with your dispatcher and show an extra 40 pounds of taxi fuel burn. That is by far the easiest way to do it.

Don't admit to doctoring anything on a public forum. You aren't as anonymous as you think.

Exactly...

ghilis knows what I'm talking about - you and I said the same thing dude.

Saying it the way you did implies doing something you shouldn't. I legally worked out how to get hundreds of jumpseaters on board, but I never "doctored" anything.

I know what you meant but not everyone one would with the usual connotation of that word. Just saying be careful.