Skywest Profits $160 million in 2007
02-13-2008, 07:15 PM
#31
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: SkyWest Captain
Posts: 466
Fosters you need to leave this forum right now. You are just making WAY to much since for this place. We as pilots are supposed to be irrational and only care about more hourly pay even if it brings our company down to its knees, right? 
02-13-2008, 08:56 PM
#32
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
Originally Posted by fosters
SkyWest pilots haven't experienced the pain and stress of having a codeshare removed and given to someone else.
It's never happened to me either, but every guy I fly with had it happen, and it sucks. It's the nature of the regional game, we know, but that doesn't change the fact that it sucks.
By being the highest paid regional pilots a pilot group could open themselves up to limited growth if not slicing their own wrists (think Comair). They had one heck of a pay scale, for which they went on strike for 89 days to get, and they ended up taking concessions and still having flying taken away.
As pilots we really are a commodity. If higher pay equated to more profit we would have a leg to stand on. All we have is a union to help us out and the last couple ALPA votes have gone no where.
It's never happened to me either, but every guy I fly with had it happen, and it sucks. It's the nature of the regional game, we know, but that doesn't change the fact that it sucks.
By being the highest paid regional pilots a pilot group could open themselves up to limited growth if not slicing their own wrists (think Comair). They had one heck of a pay scale, for which they went on strike for 89 days to get, and they ended up taking concessions and still having flying taken away.
As pilots we really are a commodity. If higher pay equated to more profit we would have a leg to stand on. All we have is a union to help us out and the last couple ALPA votes have gone no where.
The fact remains that without a union recognized by the NMB, Skywest pilots will never be able to bargain for any substantial increase in pay rates, solidifying work rules, and ending at-will employment.
Originally Posted by WAVIT Inbound
Fosters you need to leave this forum right now. You are just making WAY to much since for this place. We as pilots are supposed to be irrational and only care about more hourly pay even if it brings our company down to its knees, right?
02-13-2008, 09:03 PM
#33
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,803
Originally Posted by Nevets
The fact remains that without a union recognized by the NMB, Skywest pilots will never be able to bargain for any substantial increase in pay rates, solidifying work rules, and ending at-will employment.
The key word here is minority, and you are preaching to it!
02-13-2008, 09:45 PM
#34
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
Um...yeah - that's what we voted on not too long ago. Remember?! If what you just said was really that important to us (it is - but there is more to life - apparently APC-goers don't know that!), we would have voted in ALPA, don't you think?
The key word here is minority, and you are preaching to it!
The key word here is minority, and you are preaching to it!
02-14-2008, 04:38 AM
#35
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,425
Originally Posted by Nevets
Surely they could spare a few million to pay the pilots just a little bit more.
In reality there really is no reason for the company to pay them more "just to be nice".
02-14-2008, 07:43 AM
#36
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Posts: 124
Originally Posted by WAVIT Inbound
Fosters you need to leave this forum right now. You are just making WAY to much since for this place. We as pilots are supposed to be irrational and only care about more hourly pay even if it brings our company down to its knees, right?
02-14-2008, 08:05 AM
#37
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: SkyWest Capt.
Posts: 2,963
Originally Posted by Giggity
Riddle grammar check.
But if the centanse luks somting like thes thin thats a problm. Since and sense are simple and for the most part should be overlooked. Most on here post quickly and as their headed out the door etc. Now there are some posters who don’t proofread at all and their posts make very little sinse (lol) or contain many misspelling, those posters should be educated nicely.
02-14-2008, 09:55 AM
#38
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
Originally Posted by fosters
Why? Does SkyWest have a staffing shortage? What will the company get out of paying its pilots more?
In reality there really is no reason for the company to pay them more "just to be nice".
In reality there really is no reason for the company to pay them more "just to be nice".
You are right, there is no reason for the company to pay them more "just to be nice." This has been proven just recently. And this is precisely the reason why a NMB recognized union is needed. Thank you for making my point.
02-14-2008, 10:28 AM
#39
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,425
Originally Posted by Nevets
This is the type of mentality that doesn't help pilots. You are looking at it ONLY from management's perspective.
And this is precisely the reason why a NMB recognized union is needed. Thank you for making my point.
It won't ever happen but it is nice to look forward to
.
02-14-2008, 12:12 PM
#40
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
Originally Posted by fosters
That's because management is the other party who signs the deal. If you don't look at it from their point of view you won't ever get a contract.
Originally Posted by fosters
Absolutely. It's why pilots as a union need one unified contract across the board. If you're flying an RJ, you make union RJ wages. If you're flying an Airbus, you make union Airbus wages.
It won't ever happen but it is nice to look forward to.
It won't ever happen but it is nice to look forward to
.So, why shouldn't the pilots get more of the pie?
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
