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Old 02-14-2008 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by fosters
That's because management is the other party who signs the deal. If you don't look at it from their point of view you won't ever get a contract.
Did you even read my whole post? I understand management has a job to do to try to keep costs down. We all understand that. I said as much in my previous post. I know their point of view. But not having a NMB recognized union with the pilots point of view will NEVER allow the pilots to have a contract!

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Absolutely. It's why pilots as a union need one unified contract across the board. If you're flying an RJ, you make union RJ wages. If you're flying an Airbus, you make union Airbus wages.

It won't ever happen but it is nice to look forward to .
No argument there. But like I've said before, we live in reality and not fantasy island.


So, why shouldn't the pilots get more of the pie?
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Old 02-14-2008 | 12:34 PM
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So, why shouldn't the pilots get more of the pie?
The answer would depend on the Company's staffing levels, turnover, and qualified applicant pool. If all of those are reasonable I'd say there really *isn't* a reason to give the employees a raise from a management perspective.
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Old 02-14-2008 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by fosters
The answer would depend on the Company's staffing levels, turnover, and qualified applicant pool. If all of those are reasonable I'd say there really *isn't* a reason to give the employees a raise from a management perspective.
Can you step out of your management perspective?
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Old 02-14-2008 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
Can you step out of your management perspective?
Can you step into managment's perspective?
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Old 02-14-2008 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
Can you step out of your management perspective?
No because they're the ones who give the raises.
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Old 02-14-2008 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
Can you step into managment's perspective?
Did you read the whole thread. I have mentioned on more than one occasion that I understand that part of what management needs to do is to reduce costs. So to answer your question, yes I can and have.
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Old 02-14-2008 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by fosters
No because they're the ones who give the raises.
So you look at it only from one's point of view. And you chose management's.
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Old 02-14-2008 | 01:07 PM
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If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

(yes that was sarcasm)
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Old 02-14-2008 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by fosters
If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

(yes that was sarcasm)
Hell, seems like good advice to me.
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Old 02-14-2008 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by fosters
If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

(yes that was sarcasm)
From what you have written, I don't believe you were being entirely sarcastic.
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