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ToiletDuck 02-25-2008 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by 1forflying (Post 327713)
Time for all UNION carriers to set minimum contract goals so the majors will be hard pressed to play one regional against another.

Or set minimum contract goals that make the decision to put a nice 737 on it that much easier. I hate to say it but so long as there is free enterprise in the Majors then it has to exist here. Regulation could change that.

OntheMissed 02-25-2008 08:26 PM

Good work guys!

rorwizard 02-26-2008 05:21 AM

So this may be a stupid question... but what does this mean to pilots just getting hired/ getting hired in the next few months at Pinnacle?

PinnacleFO 02-26-2008 05:31 AM

COngrats to both pilot groups, we now know that we can't be used against each other. Having said that, this is going to take a long time. I predict nothing will change by the end of the year and both companies will continue to operate as normal until something happens down the road.

LoudFastRules 02-26-2008 06:22 AM

Congrats, guys. At least now they can't use the threat of Colgan against you in negotiations. It's contract time.

Let 'em have it!

MudPupppy 02-26-2008 11:56 AM

Congrats....Is there any memo or anything in regard to this? Is this actually official?

Airsupport 02-26-2008 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by MudPupppy (Post 328150)
Congrats....Is there any memo or anything in regard to this? Is this actually official?

it is official. what i said at the beginning of the post is directly from the conference call we had last night. infact our mec chair read us the letter he received from the arbitrator on the conference call so it wasn't him paraphrasing or anything like that. like many people have said on here, the merger wont be quick, but it will happen. the company has now lost the chance to move our flying to colgan and then whipsaw us. since they bought them they will now have to merge them with us. not much more they can do. i think they next round of negotiations in the coming week will be pretty interesting.

PinnacleFO 02-26-2008 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by Airsupport (Post 328213)
it is official. what i said at the beginning of the post is directly from the conference call we had last night. infact our mec chair read us the letter he received from the arbitrator on the conference call so it wasn't him paraphrasing or anything like that. like many people have said on here, the merger wont be quick, but it will happen. the company has now lost the chance to move our flying to colgan and then whipsaw us. since they bought them they will now have to merge them with us. not much more they can do. i think they next round of negotiations in the coming week will be pretty interesting.


They already offered us 15,000,000 extra in cash to do what ever we want with it over the course of the next contract, which would close the gap that was originally there. Only problem? They wanted us to accept their scope proposal that would basically wipe out the decision we just won

NO DEAL!

iahflyr 02-26-2008 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by PCL_128 (Post 327729)
Anyone who constantly asks "what has ALPA done for me lately" now has a big answer.

Here here!!

Congrats to all the Pinnacle guys. You just cleared a major hurdle to your next contract. Now don't settle for anything less than an industry leading contract. I know you guys have a lot of fight inside. Keep it up.


And yeah, ALPA!

iahflyr 02-26-2008 02:28 PM

Interesting question...

So Colgan pilots will eventually be on the same seniority list as Pinnacle pilots. I believe this means they will be represented by ALPA and thus represented under your CBA.

Does that mean the Pinnacle MEC is going to start negotiating Saab and Q400 rates?

If so, take a look at Horizon, Eagle, and Skywest for typical turboprop pay. You can ignore bottom feeders like Mesa, Lynx, Gulfstream, and Great Lakes.


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