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PCL_128 02-26-2008 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 328291)
Does that mean the Pinnacle MEC is going to start negotiating Saab and Q400 rates?

If the list is merged before the contract is completed, then they would have to. If the list merger happens after the contract is signed, then the rates would have to be determined via arbitration just as the current -900 rates are being arbitrated. Or, the MEC could simply choose to negotiate the rates before the merger just to get it out of the way. That comes down to whatever they think will be the smarter strategy for getting the best rates. I could go either way on that. There are pluses and minuses with either route.

flynwmn 02-26-2008 05:43 PM

Glad you guys got what was right I have alot of friends in Ground Ops and Flight Ops at PNCL but just remember look what main line USair is trying to do and throw ALPA off Property does any one think that will happen in this Case?

1forflying 02-26-2008 11:43 PM


Originally Posted by flynwmn (Post 328454)
Glad you guys got what was right I have alot of friends in Ground Ops and Flight Ops at PNCL but just remember look what main line USair is trying to do and throw ALPA off Property does any one think that will happen in this Case?

Not a chance. 99.3% in favor of giving our MEC authority to walk if need be. The pilot group is unified and ALPA is here for a while.

dingo222 02-27-2008 06:43 AM

whats the pcl rate for saab flying?

flynwmn 02-27-2008 09:38 PM

thanks for the Update

Airsupport 02-28-2008 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by dingo222 (Post 328737)
whats the pcl rate for saab flying?



Turboprop Aircraft Captains
YOS 5/1/04
0-1 39.83
1-2 41.35
2-3 42.90
3-4 44.68
4-5 46.33
5-6 47.90
6-7 49.32
7-8 50.67
8-9 52.10
9-10 53.55
10-11 54.96
11-12 56.25
12-13 57.13
13-14 57.69
14-15 58.32



Turboprop Aircraft First Officers
YOS 5/1/04
0-1 20.73
1-2 24.39
2-3 25.65
3-4 26.99
4-5 28.04
5-6 28.75
6-7 29.14
7-8 29.27
8-9 29.27
9-10 29.27
10-11 29.27
11-12 29.27
12-13 29.27
13-14 29.27
14-15 29.27

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nicholasblonde 02-28-2008 09:54 AM

It makes me shudder seeing that "5/1/04"...4 years this May!!! Amenable for almost 3 years now.

The Allies conquered Nazi Germany and Japan simultaneuosly in WWII in less time than it has taken to negotiate an airline contract.

wolf 02-28-2008 12:20 PM

The arbitrator's ruling is a significant victory for us but for the moment is mostly symbolic. The real value of the ruling is the increased pressure on the company that in synergy with other factors, may result in achieving a fair contract before the end of time.

I do not expect a merging of lists any time soon. The company does have to come to the table to discuss this ruling however based on their past conduct, I would expect them to engage in every delay tactic conceivable. This process could drag on for some time and end up in court.

That being said, it is still a significant victory for the Pinnacle pilot group as represented by ALPA. This may signify a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel...


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