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Airsupport 02-25-2008 03:53 PM

Pinnacle scope ruling is in
 
It was announced tonight that the company has violated our scope clause section 1.2.f (i believe) and is required to comply with this section by putting fences in place to protect pinnacle pilots jobs, and eventually merge seniority lists between pinnacle and colgan pilots. of course our mec said the company will fight it but our arbitrator has stated he wants to remain in control of this grievance and will see that it is accomplished. it is a big win or a "slam dunk" as our mec chair guy said for our pilot group. an even bigger win is that the arbitrator has personally said in the letter that he will continue to oversee this and will not pass it on to someone else to finish. it was also announced tonight that the company is actually starting to work with our negotiating team to reach a deal and that there has been some real progress in communication and discussion. i wonder why?? :)

Seggy 02-25-2008 03:55 PM

What is going to be the next step?

Pilotpip 02-25-2008 03:56 PM

Great news guys. Keep sticking it to management. All this garbage is doing to them is costing them more litigation costs and retro pay in the long run.

Airsupport 02-25-2008 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by Seggy (Post 327542)
What is going to be the next step?

the next step is for the union to go to the company with a proposal of how we want the merger to take place, what kind of fences will be up, and how the seniority lists will be combined.. of course this is after the company has fought the ruling. the delay we are seeing right now in getting things done is the company is writing their dissent to the ruling, but our mec guy said that is normal and has no bearing on the ruling. i wont think it is going to be any time real soon, maybe by years end.

JetJock16 02-25-2008 04:05 PM

Congrats guys.

HIREME 02-25-2008 04:09 PM

VICTORY!

BTW, anyone notice any correlation between declining on-time numbers and the company actually willing to talk for the first time in several months?

Seggy 02-25-2008 04:12 PM

What is the probability we will see Colgan pilots integrated on the Pinnacle list and we will have a contract?

higney85 02-25-2008 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by HIREME (Post 327558)
VICTORY!

BTW, anyone notice any correlation between declining on-time numbers and the company actually willing to talk for the first time in several months?

Money talks... especially when you start messing with their own back pocket....

The Juice 02-25-2008 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by Seggy (Post 327561)
What is the probability we will see Colgan pilots integrated on the Pinnacle list and we will have a contract?

As stated before Pinnacle Corp will have their lawyers doing what they do. I would not expect to see any merging of any kind this year, maybe early next year. The truth is this type of thing can get tied up in court.

Here is a question for thought, Colgan votes ALPA in this August before merging pilot groups...any affect on what will happen?

Seggy 02-25-2008 06:38 PM

No it can not get tied up in court because the arbitrator is the final word in the matter.

We had our chance to vote in ALPA. If we voted it in this PAST August PNCL ALPA MEC would have worked with us.

We declined and have to live with that decision.


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