Landing in Lake Chuck, LA (5000' runway) during some rain in the E145 I put it down very firmly and got on it to get stopped. As we taxi to the gate the captain says "nice landing, I hate getting seat cushion up my butt watching you guys float trying to grease it onto a short runway". So I'm feeling pretty good about my "performance" landing. As the pax deplane, I'm turned around in my seat just in case anyone wants to look past the FA at the 2 goons who actually hurled them through the air at 450mph in a 50,000lb aluminum tube. As this one guy gets off he looks up into the front office and says "you boys practicing for those carrier landings?". Before I can say a word the FA says "well the option is an evacuation and a campfire in those trees over there...so I'd say it was a pretty decent landing". Guy just mumbled and walked off:D

I had a X-wind to tailwind shear going into BWI, The bounce put us back into the air by 20 feet(according to the RA). My Captain at the time said you couldn't do that on your own if you tried to. Well, Firm landings happen to all of us-they'll happen again.
You could tell your PAX that you just came back from Carrier quals, and just got into that routeen(sp).

Yeah...not even close. Good try though:D Good story too.

On my 4-day IOE in the 170, my landings started out being shabby to pretty good on the last leg of the trip and feeling confident about them.

Get 3 days off and on my 1st leg on the line out of IOE and I hit pretty hard coming in ROC, severe clear and light winds. Embarassing to say the least.

I've had my share of carrier landings in the -900 as well. And they always seem to happen with this one particular flight attendant who always comments. She's sharp enough to know the A/P disconnect "chirp" and whose leg it is so I get a complex when I fly with her. But the last one I did with her on board I greased for all it was worth. 3 days ago...ferried and empty plane from DTW to MSP...clear and calm winds and I landed like a student pilot his first time in a 172. The point is, some good, some not so good...Im still trying to feel this thing (the 900) out every time I fly. I try to make sure above all else, I keep it on the centerline and make the touchdown zone.

Heck, if I had a dollar for everytime you ERJ boys slow to 130 20 miles out in IAH backing up the entire system. ;)

Just my 2 cents.
Anybody who flys the saab knows that flying that thing for years you still will never consistently grease that thing. You will always have a pounder or two on a trip.
In Dayton the other day with a 10-12kt crosswind i logged two landings, One with the upwind gear and one with both at the same time. I guess The airplane just didnt want to be there right?:D

I gave up on trying to "grease" the Saab a few hundred landings ago. Now I strive for TD zone and centerline.

It was gusty yesterday in IAH (30-40kts) at 60 degrees off, we even had a lady throw up on final and the bottom of the bag ripped and dumped it everywhere. Conditions like that it is dangerous to try and grease, I dumped it on.

I have also given up on trying to grease the Saab in. I got a "blue light" landing today but I could use the same technique with the same conditions tomorrow and bam!, there she is!

I have also given up on customer compliments after a greaser:cool:

compliments on a greased landing are as likely as oil prices dropping 50 bucks a barrel.

I've received one last month from a Northwest captain Non-reving. Otherwise passengers could give a crap unless they think they were almost killed.... then you will hear about it.

I had a Captain tightening every muscle in his body as the count down went 100...50-40-30-20..10...........ah and a nice touch. Then the next trip I balloned a landing it was nasty.

Come on guys, the Saab isn't nearly that bad. The Dash has much stiffer landing gear. Not that I'm saying that I have never had a landing less than a greaser, but it's all about power management and making darn sure it is absolutely lined up with the runway with no side-slip. If you get a handle on those two things you will do pretty well.

Well, the good thing about the 145 is that you have the potential for two bad landings--one when you slam the mains, and another when you forget to flare the nose and slam that one too.

I didnt say anything about being 130 ten miles out and floating down the runway....but yes it definately happens. Being on centerline and on profile over the fence does not require configured and on speed 10 miles out. For every dash that comes into an airport slow there is an ERJ or CRJ that does the same. There are alot of IOEs going on right now.

I beat one into 11 today at EWR so I could clear before R, when we deplaned we had an older woman who must have been at/near/around 100 who needed an aisle chair to get off because she was too frail. I felt bad, probably took 5 years off her life.

Those are the FA that you just LOVE .. Classic now if every FA was quick like that

Yep - you never hear it for a greaser - but no pax will let you live down a pounder...::shakes fist::

At least on an airliner the pax don't fly with you every leg of the trip, and don't know you personally. 91 flying can make you grow some thick skin quickly. If we had a '"firm" touchdown every once in a while we always tried to throw a comment in while the pax where getting off like: "tower had us checking the firmness of the runway"

I had a touch and go around a while back, it was not pretty.

The one thing about swapping airframes almost weekly (the CRJ-200 into the -700/-900 or vice-versa) is that consistently good landings are hard to come by...give me two weeks in either bird and I'm good - it's frustrating having to re-learn an aircraft twice monthly!!

LoL yeah I'm sure a "client" would get sick of a lousy stick pretty quick ;)

edited to say: say that ten times quick!!

IOE on the 727, pulled the throttles to idle at 30 feet!! Heard the engineer audibly gasp, captain say "not yet!", then put a crater into the runway at DEN. I think the rollout was less than 500 feet. Never happened again, but in the 72 everything was a crapshoot... Passengers never said a word, at that place you got what you paid for I guess.

Now that's why I can't ever roll 'er in at DEN ;):D:p

Pounders are everyday occurrences in the ATR. Throw in a crosswind and that airplane is like riding a bull...

"Captain, should I notify the tower about the two potholes we placed in the runway"?

Or worse yet the owners!

Yeah I've had a handful of crap landings in the -200. But the best one was going into PLN...

The FA kept telling us how rude and snobby the pax were being to her, and it was my leg, so I decided to just not give a F about the quality of the landing. I'm not saying I tried to crash, but I just didn't care about (and kinda enjoyed) firmly planting it on the ground and testing the anti-skid.

And the captain got to do his part by riding the brakes all the way to the gate. On that particular plane that day, if you did it just right the brakes would scream like an approaching train and the whole airplane would vibrate. It was great.

I usually don't care about the landing quality in HPN either, just in case the infamous passenger who "doesn't talk to the help" is on board.

F/A called up a couple months ago and said just two very sweet words to me: "Brake-check..." You can bet that dude won't be getting out of his seat during taxi ever again :D

Oh, and Vector2Final - awesome Avatar buddy!

lol did you fix your seat height yet?

Went to BOS last trip, coming in on 27 was like a direct 15kt crosswind, gusty, just crap. Beautiful landing, damn near greased it. Next leg into PIT, they cut me loose for a short approach, swung it around, on speed, looking BEAUTIFUL - no wind, I was like man, this is gonna be nice. Thumped it on. I couldn't believe it. I had the captain cracking up, whenever I tank one on I always yell "We're here!!"

I can deal with hard landings(it happens to all), but landing hard and have the captain laughing at you is a great way to rebuild your confidence !!!!Talking about kicking a man while he is down :D

Ain't that the truth! This whole month I'm flying the CRJ-200, and this week scheduling calls and asks if I want to swap a 200 trip for some 700 flying. Being the adventurous type...I say sure, why not?

Well, it's been 2 weeks since I've flown the 700, and I just completed 700 differences IOE last month. Later that evening, we're heading into LIT and are cleared for the visual. I get configured in good measure, align with the runway centerline, and am trying to work out in my head the perfect power reduction and flare sequence. Well...turns out I got a bit slow on short final and chopped the power at 30 feet. As the Captain was saying "add power, add power" we thumped one down as hard as I've ever landed a plane.

The captain was a good sport about it and tried to reassure me that we all have those kind of landings now and then. But when the pax were deplaning, one older man yelled into the cockpit, "I think you need to practice some more touch and gos." After everyone left, one of the FAs said she really needed to use the restroom...and "that landing really didn't help." Finally...as if my ego hadn't suffered enough, the captain offered to do the post flight walk around for me (obviously to see if my landing damaged the plane!) :eek: I was a bit de-moralized after that evening's events, but for the rest of the trip, my landings were quite decent. Oh...and another thing I discovered...the sims really do a good job of recreating bad landings...all the bad landings I had in the sim felt just like my one in real life :o

RWY 10R in PIT is impossible to make a smooth landing!!! Anyone on here agree?!?!?!?!?

Never had any particular issues in PIT, had some of my best on 32 there.

Now 16/34 in HPN, that's another monster altogether....HATE that airport!

I remember a trip in the JS of a 727 into MCI where the Capt. went to flight idle on an extremely high downwind, and never touched the power again! Had an extremely high vertical speed right to the runway and the airplane hit so hard that it practically stopped on the touchdown zone. Scared the sh** out of me, but there was nothing I could say, and I'm sure that the other two crew felt the same. Pax were speechless on the way out...

The only way i could ever land that thing was land it in a slip one wheel at a time even if there wasnt a cross wind. If i ever landed on both mains it was always ugly.

I remember how you landed the duchess and it scares me to think your landing the 170!!!

Thats so funny because my first smooth landing thats exactly what I did! I think Im going to start landing like that all the time since you mentioned it. How much time you have in the ATR?

Man is it possible to land the Duchess hard? I instructed for 40 hours in the Duchess and all my students made smooth landings no matter how hard they hit the runway! I've always claimed that the Duchess is the world's easiest airplane to land, followed by the Seminole.:D

I dont think I ever had a bad landing in the old douche bag.

And landing at PIT aint bad. 23 in CLT is my nemesis. Had a greaser in there and then skipped off the hump. Man, that ****es me off.

Just because the Duchess and CRJ-200 are easy to land doesn't make them nice to land...they roll down the runway like loose goose's and hit the runway like a rolling pig - not exactly pleasant.

Give me stiff gear, where I can occasionally really grease the bird on and I'm happy!

Remember kids - the -200 makes most landings good, but a great landing impossible. Rise to the challenge that a stiff gear gives you!

I'm right there with ya. I couldn't land smoothly (in the 900) to save my life on my last trip. Luckily, my ego became a little less bruised when the captain (who was a GHMC, if you know what that is) pounded one on in Harrisburg that made my carrier landings look beautiful by comparison.
It was at night, and he was blaming some reflection from the side windows that made him see two rows of edge lights. I've been looking for that anomaly ever since, and have yet to find it. :rolleyes: