Bad Landing
 

Been at chautauqua for almost a year, never had any real problems landing. Last week, VFR, light to no winds at IND, some reason was too late on the flare and bam, I thought I lost wings. One passenger made a comment when deplaning. Feeling pretty bad about this, anyone had the same thing happen? I know no one will fly perfect all the time, but man, that was terrible.

My one bad Landing while on the JungleJet, I simply forgot to flare (yeah, it was pretty raunchy!). It happens to even the best of us, buddy ;)

We're not worthy! :eek:

:p

What?! That girl lands better than the most docile of 152's :p LoL...besides, I was only on her for a couple months :D

My callout upon completion of a firm touchdown:
"Found the runway!"
or
"That stupid runway got in the way of my descent"

Yes, but none of the boxes made any comments about it. :D

Priceless :D

you kidding me? Bro I bounce the ERJ at least twice a month :) Its when we need to be good that matters :) Gusting to 45kts etc............

Who hasn't had it happen?

And mostly, it's not when things are really wild and blustery. Those times, it seems you make the best landings--it's when you least expect it...

I usually say, "Take that Philly!" (since me hating that airport + landing on 26 = not a greaser):)

Man, I hear ya. When its 30 gusting to 40, fighting all the way in, I can just paint those wheels onto the pavement but then on a clear, calm morning without a ripple, airplane trimmed and on speed to basically hands off all the way in and then PRANG...

I heard a story once (third or fourth hand) about a really hard landing that had the passengers whispering and asking if that was normal. The aircraft pulled off the runway and stopped for a minute or so. The co-pilot came on the intercom and announced that he was responsible for that less than smooth landing and ended by saying [you might have guessed that for the last 10 years I have been doing this on an aircraft carrier]. The story goes that the cabin broke out in laughter and some passengers even took the time to talk to the pilot as they were deplaning. Good way to end an uneasy situation I thought.

USMCFLYR

My favorite was a leg to Charlotte when the CA smacked it on he said, "take that Charlotte!"

A long time ago when I really did a bad job with a crosswind a nice little old lady deplaning said, "The pilot needs to learn how to land". She looked so sweet too. The CA was laughing about it for the rest of the trip. After a few positive compliments from pax on later landings and some therapy I got over it.

We've all had landings where you thought the wings fell off. They happen, drive on, land better next time.

yes twice... once with a CHQ jumpseater, once with a Delta jumpseater......... haha

No kidding i say the same thing on 33 in DCA! Philly 26 sucks even more HAHA

If you feel bad about you landings and cant overcome it, just go and jumpseat on a Q400 flight. You'll feel much better after that, thrust me

I bet they thought "figures................shes a chic" :)

Saab 340 into CHO about 2 years ago. Just finished IOE and it was my first night landing with heavy rain, fog, and a xwind. The lights were full bright and the runway isn't that long. I flew the approach almost to mins and never flaired! Ive never seen a Saab bounce, but it did that night. The captain couldn't stop laughing all the way into the crew room and starting calling me "crash" for the longest time!

We really do need to test the integrity of the runway surface from time to time.

Can't wait to have uncle Phill (here at PNCL) as a pax.......I'd basically crash the airplane into the concrete and as he deplanes I'd say........"You get what you pay for uncle Phill......."
No more smooth landings 'till we get a contract....... (just kidding(

26 at phl and 33 at dca= gear strength tests for AWAC rj's in my opinion. Sometimes you can get'em to be nice, but other times, get the b****h on the ground and stopped is all you can do.

If it was in the touchdown zone and there was no structural damage, it was a good landing.....

Use those standards, and all your landings will be good.

Preferably in the ballpark on the speed as well ;) Had a few less than stellar landings in my life, but one day a couple of years ago I had a not even close to bad landing and one elderly man decided to "ask" me as he deplaned: "Son, where you in the Navy?" The FO, flight attendant and myself just looked at each other for a few seconds before we busted out laughing (after the gentleman deplaned of course.)

Aircraft reusable = good landing

or any of the Dash 8 series for that matter.

The real rough landings I get is on 33 or 15 at DCA. If feel rather rushed to get it on the ground. I don't care about smooth landings on that rwy. I'd be a little upset if I greased it on then ended up in river or cement wall. The capt probably wouldn't appreciate it either.

No no, walking away from it = good landing. Airplane re-usable = great landing :)

My first flight/landing in IOE was firm to say the least. Was told in the sim not to flare the saab, so guess what, I didn't :eek: I thought we hit so hard that we were back in the air. I did hit the touchdown zone, literally. One of the passengers asked the flight attendant for her to land the plane next time.
Just when you think you have it figured out in the Saab, the plane proves you otherwise.

p.s. So true, I seem to greased it in the worst weather, but not when the weather is great

the compass on the atr swings down from the glareshield and one day i smashed into the ground so hard that i broke the compass. it slammed out of the stored position so hard that it landed in the captains lap. after a bounce in richmond in the 145 the fa said to us as we opend the door to call maintenance cause i knocked the rubber jungle down (o2 masks) thankfully he was jaggin me but i wouldnt have been shocked if i had.

Eh. It happens. (I swear they must have jacked the airport up a few feet from when we last landed here!)

I recall an incident where I was sitting at a gate once getting ready to depart. A CRJ pulled into the ramp space next to us and started to deplane. Right as the door opened, the crew of that aircraft called us on the ops freq and asked me to "keep an eye on the passengers as they deplane."

Although it was an odd request, I figured that maybe they were running an engine or CS was short staffed so I looked up as they came down the airstairs. Sure enough, every one of them was smiling and waving. Of course, not wanting to be a jerk, I had to stop my preflight checks and wave back.

Finally after they deplaned, the CA of that flight comes running over. I ask him what the deal was and he says- "Hey thanks! I had a really sh--ty landing, so to take their mind off of it, I told them it was your birthday and you just asked your flight attendant to marry you."

We had a good laugh about it. (And he didn't get any grief!)

Any Dash We just Drive them on/

saab
 

That's very true with the Saab! You do the same thing everytime. Sometimes it hits firm and other times you have to look for the "blue" light to know if you are on the ground. -saab guys know what the blue light is!

The DC-8 hits hard even when you are good. I'm not and it still hits hard <G>
I asked one DC-8 driver (and fellow carrier Naval Aviator) how to fly the 8 in close before I started training, he said it was "all a mystery below 30 feet" :rolleyes:

I have finally given up on trying to make smooth landings in the q400, it's just not gonna happen.

I've gotta agree with every post here regarding the Dash. Any greaser is pure luck, or, a wet runway. If you'd like to cure your guilt of occasionally pounding one on, come jumpseat on a Dash-8. You will never feel bad again! There's never a question whether you've touched the ground...

flaps 35 if you have some runway to play with has a CHANCE of being smooth, but only if the clouds open up and the dash gods smile down upon you.

Any of you Piedmontsers on this thread based in ROA??? there is a Captain who give me rides all the time into philly....big older guy with a great sense of humor...Man...he can land that dash like nobody ive ever seen...hes greased every landing since i first met him...i think somebody told me hes a radio personality too.

Yeah, those EWR controllers love it when you Q400 boys slow to 130 still 10 miles out and float for days before touching down 3000 feet down the runway and then rolling all the way to the end. Watching those "smooth" landings just makes their day;)

drilled the 145 on GSO one day. pax told me he did not like the landing. i said, "neither did we, we're gonna go back and try it again."

i've also had a few captains announce over the PA after a hard one, "ladies & gentlemen, we have arrived."

The 170 can be greased fairly easily...that being said. 2 weeks out of IOE going into IAD (19L). A ncie 11,000ft runway to play with, calm winds, good vis...sounds easy. I slammed that sucker on so hard I popped 3 overhead bins open. Had the Capt in stitches as he told the folks that there was a massage parlor in B terminal and such. Hasn't happened since, but man that one sticks out in the mind.