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saabguy493 03-19-2008 11:17 AM
RWY 10R in PIT is impossible to make a smooth landing!!! Anyone on here agree?!?!?!?!?

BoilerUP 03-19-2008 11:24 AM
Originally Posted by saabguy493 (Post 343971)
RWY 10R in PIT is impossible to make a smooth landing!!! Anyone on here agree?!?!?!?!?
Never had any particular issues in PIT, had some of my best on 32 there.

Now 16/34 in HPN, that's another monster altogether....HATE that airport!

MTOP 03-19-2008 11:33 AM
Originally Posted by Rocket Bob (Post 343559)
IOE on the 727, pulled the throttles to idle at 30 feet!! Heard the engineer audibly gasp, captain say "not yet!", then put a crater into the runway at DEN. I think the rollout was less than 500 feet. Never happened again, but in the 72 everything was a crapshoot... Passengers never said a word, at that place you got what you paid for I guess.
I remember a trip in the JS of a 727 into MCI where the Capt. went to flight idle on an extremely high downwind, and never touched the power again! Had an extremely high vertical speed right to the runway and the airplane hit so hard that it practically stopped on the touchdown zone. Scared the sh** out of me, but there was nothing I could say, and I'm sure that the other two crew felt the same. Pax were speechless on the way out...

Killer51883 03-19-2008 12:53 PM
Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 343578)
Pounders are everyday occurrences in the ATR. Throw in a crosswind and that airplane is like riding a bull...

The only way i could ever land that thing was land it in a slip one wheel at a time even if there wasnt a cross wind. If i ever landed on both mains it was always ugly.

Killer51883 03-19-2008 12:54 PM
Originally Posted by inside0ut (Post 343675)
lol did you fix your seat height yet?

Went to BOS last trip, coming in on 27 was like a direct 15kt crosswind, gusty, just crap. Beautiful landing, damn near greased it. Next leg into PIT, they cut me loose for a short approach, swung it around, on speed, looking BEAUTIFUL - no wind, I was like man, this is gonna be nice. Thumped it on. I couldn't believe it. I had the captain cracking up, whenever I tank one on I always yell "We're here!!"
I remember how you landed the duchess and it scares me to think your landing the 170!!!

Trip7 03-19-2008 02:07 PM
Originally Posted by Killer51883 (Post 344088)
The only way i could ever land that thing was land it in a slip one wheel at a time even if there wasnt a cross wind. If i ever landed on both mains it was always ugly.
Thats so funny because my first smooth landing thats exactly what I did! I think Im going to start landing like that all the time since you mentioned it. How much time you have in the ATR?

Trip7 03-19-2008 02:09 PM
Originally Posted by Killer51883 (Post 344089)
I remember how you landed the duchess and it scares me to think your landing the 170!!!
Man is it possible to land the Duchess hard? I instructed for 40 hours in the Duchess and all my students made smooth landings no matter how hard they hit the runway! I've always claimed that the Duchess is the world's easiest airplane to land, followed by the Seminole.:D

inside0ut 03-19-2008 04:29 PM
Originally Posted by Killer51883 (Post 344089)
I remember how you landed the duchess and it scares me to think your landing the 170!!!
I dont think I ever had a bad landing in the old douche bag.

And landing at PIT aint bad. 23 in CLT is my nemesis. Had a greaser in there and then skipped off the hump. Man, that ****es me off.

ExperimentalAB 03-19-2008 04:48 PM
Just because the Duchess and CRJ-200 are easy to land doesn't make them nice to land...they roll down the runway like loose goose's and hit the runway like a rolling pig - not exactly pleasant.

Give me stiff gear, where I can occasionally really grease the bird on and I'm happy!

Remember kids - the -200 makes most landings good, but a great landing impossible. Rise to the challenge that a stiff gear gives you!

gbntpilot 03-19-2008 11:36 PM
Originally Posted by Tinpusher007 (Post 343162)
I've had my share of carrier landings in the -900 as well. ....Im still trying to feel this thing (the 900) out every time I fly.
I'm right there with ya. I couldn't land smoothly (in the 900) to save my life on my last trip. Luckily, my ego became a little less bruised when the captain (who was a GHMC, if you know what that is) pounded one on in Harrisburg that made my carrier landings look beautiful by comparison.
It was at night, and he was blaming some reflection from the side windows that made him see two rows of edge lights. I've been looking for that anomaly ever since, and have yet to find it. :rolleyes:


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