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04-08-2008 | 03:41 PM
#101
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From: Turboprop Captain
She had been nothing but a student and brand new FO. Always being told what to do and how to do it from an experienced flight instructor and later closely monitored by a very experienced CA (relatively). She probably never voiced her concern for the upcoming situation. She obviously, didn't try a go around. The CA finally acted... way too late.
She rarely has had to make a decision for herself as PIC, much less question a "mentor's" decision. Partly due to her lack of experience, she was quietly along for the ride.
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04-08-2008 | 04:17 PM
#103
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Let someone else do the learning for me? Now you're really showing your true colors. All I've asked you to do is provide factual evidence that this female pilot was, and I quote "a whopping 300hrsTT" pilot as you claimed earlier. Even with the most recent links you've posted (all in German I might add) there is still no written statement that says she was a 300TT pilot. Btw, I agree, Google is great, especially the translation feature which I used to read the articles that were in German. Still waiting for this mysterious article that will make you honest. Until then, I think you're lying to everyone in a failed attempt to make your point.
What's that supposed to mean? Because I don't put down my fellow pilots and make up fake accusations it's obvious I was never a CFI. Please... You give CFI's a bad name.
What's that supposed to mean? Because I don't put down my fellow pilots and make up fake accusations it's obvious I was never a CFI. Please... You give CFI's a bad name.
04-08-2008 | 04:21 PM
#104
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True on the CA's part.
She had been nothing but a student and brand new FO. Always being told what to do and how to do it from an experienced flight instructor and later closely monitored by a very experienced CA (relatively). She probably never voiced her concern for the upcoming situation. She obviously, didn't try a go around. The CA finally acted... way too late.
She rarely has had to make a decision for herself as PIC, much less question a "mentor's" decision. Partly due to her lack of experience, she was quietly along for the ride.
She had been nothing but a student and brand new FO. Always being told what to do and how to do it from an experienced flight instructor and later closely monitored by a very experienced CA (relatively). She probably never voiced her concern for the upcoming situation. She obviously, didn't try a go around. The CA finally acted... way too late.
She rarely has had to make a decision for herself as PIC, much less question a "mentor's" decision. Partly due to her lack of experience, she was quietly along for the ride.
04-08-2008 | 04:27 PM
#105
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From: Spartan
For someone not involved in the incident, you seem overly sensitive. Low hour RJ FO hire? His comments may or may not be true but you're not doing yourself any favors with your replies.
04-08-2008 | 04:28 PM
#106
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From: Turboprop Captain
Turbofan,
Your gonna wishyou had done some CFI'n when you become a CA and get the 330 hour FO who had 80 hours of IOE (they're out there and in great numbers). Just because you're a 300 hour no-flaw prodigy doesn't mean you won't have to deal with those who posses lesser skills than yourself.
It's a little different when you gotta coach or monitor the weak FO who has strapped on way too much aircraft way too early. Especially, when you get paired up with one of them as a brand-new CA.
Which one will you be? The captain who finger-fncks everything, and constantly corrects them, or the annoyed captain who will only let them fly legs to the base airport?
Your gonna wishyou had done some CFI'n when you become a CA and get the 330 hour FO who had 80 hours of IOE (they're out there and in great numbers). Just because you're a 300 hour no-flaw prodigy doesn't mean you won't have to deal with those who posses lesser skills than yourself.
It's a little different when you gotta coach or monitor the weak FO who has strapped on way too much aircraft way too early. Especially, when you get paired up with one of them as a brand-new CA.
Which one will you be? The captain who finger-fncks everything, and constantly corrects them, or the annoyed captain who will only let them fly legs to the base airport?
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04-08-2008 | 04:30 PM
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True on the CA's part.
She had been nothing but a student and brand new FO. Always being told what to do and how to do it from an experienced flight instructor and later closely monitored by a very experienced CA (relatively). She probably never voiced her concern for the upcoming situation. She obviously, didn't try a go around. The CA finally acted... way too late.
She rarely has had to make a decision for herself as PIC, much less question a "mentor's" decision. Partly due to her lack of experience, she was quietly along for the ride.
She had been nothing but a student and brand new FO. Always being told what to do and how to do it from an experienced flight instructor and later closely monitored by a very experienced CA (relatively). She probably never voiced her concern for the upcoming situation. She obviously, didn't try a go around. The CA finally acted... way too late.
She rarely has had to make a decision for herself as PIC, much less question a "mentor's" decision. Partly due to her lack of experience, she was quietly along for the ride.
04-08-2008 | 04:38 PM
#108
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low-time/high-time is really not the issue at hand my brother but rather common sense. and turbofan much like myself is waiting for some to be used with just a trickle of fact to back up these statements. most around here have an ichy ichy trigger finger and need a calibration before they jump on fellow pilots they know little to nothing about.
04-08-2008 | 04:43 PM
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From: A320 FO
Yes, I am a graduate of one of those "pilot mills" everyone speaks so highly of. I'm not ashamed to say it. I also don't think I am gods gift to flying by any means. I do, however, get sick of people making rash and unwarranted statements which aren't even true, for the sole purpose of bashing guys like me.
I embrace the fact that I have a lot to learn and look forward to doing so throughout my career. I'm just sick of people playing the CFI card in an attempt to belittle what myself, and many others, have accomplished.
Just as parents say when their 16 y/o gets their drivers license... I'm cruising around FL360 with all ya'll. Better watch out!
04-08-2008 | 04:46 PM
#110
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From: Spartan
Slice, you know my M.O. mang. You read and responded to my little intro to APC. You told me to pi** off if I remember correctly.
Yes, I am a graduate of one of those "pilot mills" everyone speaks so highly of. I'm not ashamed to say it. I also don't think I am gods gift to flying by any means. I do, however, get sick of people making rash and unwarranted statements which aren't even true, for the sole purpose of bashing guys like me.
I embrace the fact that I have a lot to learn and look forward to doing so throughout my career. I'm just sick of people playing the CFI card in an attempt to belittle what myself, and many others, have accomplished.
Just as parents say when their 16 y/o gets their drivers license... I'm cruising around FL360 with all ya'll. Better watch out!
Yes, I am a graduate of one of those "pilot mills" everyone speaks so highly of. I'm not ashamed to say it. I also don't think I am gods gift to flying by any means. I do, however, get sick of people making rash and unwarranted statements which aren't even true, for the sole purpose of bashing guys like me.
I embrace the fact that I have a lot to learn and look forward to doing so throughout my career. I'm just sick of people playing the CFI card in an attempt to belittle what myself, and many others, have accomplished.
Just as parents say when their 16 y/o gets their drivers license... I'm cruising around FL360 with all ya'll. Better watch out!
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