EDDH 011220Z 29028G48KT 9000 -SHRA FEW011 BKN014 07/05 Q0984 TEMPO 29035G55KT 4000 SHRA BKN008

It was 60 degrees to rwy23 gusting up to 48 kts.

A320 limitation is: 33 Gusts 38

ref: http://www.nifa.us/judgesmanual/apendixC.pdf

X-wind component is 42

My math skills are quite limited however, 42 is not the product of 38 times 3... let alone 4.

It is doubtful that a self-preservation, will-to-live mindset would've entered the most dim of minds.

We agree! Her experience must be considered among least the smallest of factors in their decision making process.

 

watch out man once them hills get a taste of light piston they get real greedy and them villagers below darn sure got muskets. well at least you dont gotta worry bout pressurization.

 

please keep in mind that my knowledge of the facts are limited but with the right kinda eyes one might be able to see a runway in EDDH named thirty three. which pardon the math as my skills to are quite atrocious is roughly forty degrees and using that nifty chart bring the component down to thirty one. I even checked the approaches to our new favorite runway and low and behold…. yes… there’s a precision. if everything checks out... these are not CFI skills... these are common sense skills.

 

I never said that "had she been a cfi along with the CA" this would've never happened.

I agree with you 100 percent that common sense was lacking and was primary factor in the error to even try that rwy.

I am just saying that her low-time and having never been a real PIC prior to becoming an SIC must be considered among at least the smallest factor in the reason behind her not speaking up and.. gasp... second guess THE CAPTAIN!?!?

Due to her most memorable EXPERIENCE so far in her short aviation career do you think that she will, when faced with the same set of circumstances, (even during focus training in the sim)

A) Attempt it again?
B) Attempt it again and go around earlier?
C) Or speak up and request the other runway to begin with?

I know you and turbofan are unwilling to accept the concept that experience counts for something, and lack of it can not count against anything. So, be very careful in selecting B, or C cause in doing so you will admit that experience counts for something. May God help you.

 

This is quite an extreme thread drift.

 

What? When did this happen? I can guarantee you I had a 1000hr requirement. If they have removed this then they have done nothing but cheapen the degree. I shall contact the dean immediately upon the dawn.

 

If you had 1000 PIC you got up to 36 credits depending on ratings held. I think you could still get the degree without the time but had to take more classes.

 

give me no credit you do... young jedi. i'll be the first to tell you that experince does count for something... for the matter in which we spar pertains to the type of experience. while some will debate that experience equals experience equals experience, i will throw caution to the wind my friend... i strongly believe my hours in the bombardier beast put me in a better decision making position than banner towing tony. but...i am merely a servant... a vessel in which to carry the voice of those who cannot speak, a friend of the low-time club for men... and i must admit... im not only the president, i'm also a client.

 

I completed mine a million years ago, before fancy computers and stuff. We had things called books. Back then its was a requirement...oh well.

 

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...539373,00.html

http://www.thehamburgexpress.com/content/view/646/61/

http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/vermisc...o=3926766.html

Finally found it again! has some good pictures of her too.

http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/vermisc...o=3940818.html

roughly translated by a neutral third party: http://babelfish.altavista.com/tr

It kinda sounds like Borat

Hamburg - during the approach of gale it sat to tax - Maxi J. (24), the beautiful CO female pilot of the Lufthansa flight LH 044. A gust of wind had gotten the flier in such a way that the left bearing area scratched over the runway. In last second flight captain of olive A had. (39) the machine waved off, so 137 humans saved (PICTURE reported). The beautiful female pilot, who sat to tax of the gale flier - she guards a sad secret.

Maxi originates from good house, drives gladly sport, was active as Cheerleaderin, friends was always important to it. In the year 2003 it made its Abitur, visited thereafter the national foreign language school in Hamburg. It existed the bang-hard selective procedure of Lufthansa a little later, completed starting from 2005 the training as the female pilot. THERE JULIA KNOWING LEARNED IT. It was one of their companions in crew "340. nff" (new generation pilot training course). They learned together, became friends. But the fate should always separate it...

On 1 February 2006 Julia started in the Lufthansa training centre in Phoenix (the USA) to a practice flight. It was their third solo flight. But its "Beechcraft Bonanza" fell over the desert - a cause inexplicably! The death of Julia shocked Maxi. Together with their comrades it wrote in a Kondolenzbuch: "Julia, you will always remain in our hearts! You will be on each flight with us!"

More miscellaneous items Despite the shock Maxi created its pilot license in February 2007. Well one year later came it then to the difficult approach of gale on the airport Hamburg. The first landing had Maxi alone denied, when it came to the nearly Crash, intervened their colleague. Lufthansa speaker Michael Lamberty: for "a new situation developed ways of the strong gust of wind, it within fractions of a second a role change gave. It counts the team achievement." Lufthansa places itself before the courageous female pilot. Nevertheless the Federal Agency for flight accident investigation examines the flight writers of the LH 044, above all the discussions in the cockpit. Maxi still is in the service. And that is also the most important for it. Because on the question, which prefers airplane her, Maxi said once: "no matter, main thing fly..."

She started the 0 to hero program in AZ in Feb '06, graduated in Feb '07, incident occured Mar '08.

She didn't have that much flight time. Especially for an A320...

A link to her friend's accident, it's rather interesting, very unfortunate...

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/GenPDF.asp?...06FA099&rpt=fa