No, I would much rather coach a stick and rudder pilot how to push buttons than to coach button pusher's stick and rudder skills.

Situational awareness, is what separates the good pilots from the bad pilots more than any other trait.
Situational awareness is something that comes with experience.

Patience TurboFan. You'll get to be a CFI occasionally when you make captain... unfortunately, the occasional weak "student" will be learning with 70 people in the back, and it'll be your first real experience making decisions as PIC too.

 

Man you sure are putting this chick through the ringer. What is your source for all of this information? Please post it.

 

LoL Love the post man...and since the very basic aspect of our jobs is to fly the airplane, I would have to agree that good stick and rudder skills are the best foundation...After all, if and when the automation goes kaput, can you fly an approach to mins with no A/P, FD, GPS, FMS, etc...?

 

Please... Anybody that can't take a vector to final and intercept a LOC/GS raw data has no right to be flying IFR period. I highly, highly doubt that there are many if any regional pilots out there that could not fly raw data. You guys act like many of us F/O's would be completely lost if the FMS sh** out. I don't know what your sims were like, but I know much of my sim time was flying raw data.

If you have flown with an F/O that can't hand fly an ILS raw data, report him to your flight standards department, but I doubt you ever have.

 

Google... its a wonderful thing.

It's translated...

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...539373,00.html

http://www.thehamburgexpress.com/content/view/646/61/

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...different.html

now use google to find the reported wind at the time and crosswind limitation on an A320.
www.google.com

Facts: the wind exceeded limitations. Other, more favorable, runway was available, even offered and later used. Other aircraft attempted and went around without incident. Other aircraft refused to depart and takeoff on that very runway.

 

Oops, my mistake, thought it was your company on earlier post---Da Boot.

 

I read all of your links and didn't find one that said that the F/O was a 300 "wonder" . All I could find is that she was 24 years old. Until you can substantiate that she did in fact have 300 hours, this conversation is not about low time pilots, it is about poor decision making skills. The captain is just as responsible if not more so than the F/O in this incident as he is the final authority as to the saftey of the flight.

 

I'm still looking... care to help research? The website I got that information from has since been refreshed with Germany's latest news. (www.bild.de)

Also, consider Lufthansa hires and trains many of it's pilots from scratch. I'll go ahead and search for a link for ya. Just sit there while someone else does the learning for ya.

...I sure can tell you never were a CFI, it really shows.

www.google.com

 

Hear is the article. I'm working on translated version of the website.

http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/vermisc...o=3926766.html

this one discusses training

http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/vermisc...o=3926766.html

Here is a horrible translation from an on-line translator: (my last german class was 10 years ago, so the online program does a better job)

"How do I become a pilot?

In Lufthansa there lasts the education 2,5 years. Only who passes the hard admission test (math, physics, orientation ability), may in the theory education in the occupational airman.

t lasts a year. Only then the pupils may in airplanes: First in einmotorige propeller machines, followed by simulator training. Before it goes in big scheduled planes of Boeing and airbus, it is further coached on small business jets. The minimum age for pilots lies with 21 years. The flight education costs more than 130,000 euros. During her career Lufthansa pilots of it must pay back about 41,000 euros."

If I read it right, 2.5 years of training minimum age of 21 fly for Lufthansa...

Do the math, Lufthansa pays for 0 to hero training, she is only 24. There was another link, can't find it now, that said she had been flying for Lufthansa for just about a year. Logic says: she didn't have much more than a 1,000 TT...

 

sorry bro, decision making skills in this situation dont come from experience... they come from common sense.