chq threw a crj training program together real fast so i can imagine a 145 program wouldnt be a real hassle. I wonder if they are doing this to pick up the pieces from a faltering express jet or maybe get some american flying that eagle cant staff

 

my guess was for the continental flying expressjet is supposed to be losing (if things fell through) and, if expressjet didn't sell to skywest, continental still plans to pull the airplanes from them, which they could then lease to skywest who would need authorization to fly them. The only reason i could imagine them not going with CRJ's would have something to do with a deal struck between continental/skywest which is financially better than them attempting to find and purchase more canadairs from the desert.

 

can't exj continue to operate these airplanes just like they did when cal took away planes the first time...I don't think CAL can just lease these planes

 

Ding Ding Ding!!!!!! What do we have for him Johnny?!

You have stumbled onto the exact thing that is happening behind the scenes.

As I posted before:

It's becoming a burden being right this often. In all seriousness for the XJT guys I wish I were wrong on this one. In addition, sadly, I believe (read as know) that SkyWest's experience with the ASA acquisition further soured their attitude toward ALPA and as such they just want the contract with CAL, the equipment to execute it, and will dispose of anything else they can. Saabarooski's comment about XJT guys interviewing for their own jobs at first year pay may prove prophetic. Good luck to all. Be proactive.

 

That is correct. XJT can keep all or some of them. Thus leaving CAL in another pickle because if some of the 51 or all are XRs you can bet XJT will keep them and use them. I suspect CAL wont make that mistake again but there is NO way XJT will just give up the XRs. If 20 of the 51 were XRs and the rest er's, lr's, and 135s i would guess XJT would give those back unless another carrier wants xjt to fly them. Either way XJT has first rights to ALL aircraft.

 

Short of XJT going out of business thats not going to happen per the ALPA pilot contract and scope language. The only way around the scope clause is going out of business or XJT pilots giving it away neither of which will happen IMHO. I sincerely hope you XJT guys give them He1l !! Good luck guys

 

Except that is exactly what CAL and SkyWest are planning to do and unless XJT wants to keep dozens of ERJs to add to their branded flying or for something else then they will slowly be bled to SkyWest. I don't like it either but trust me when I tell you; that's the plan as of today.

SkyWest just wants the CAL flying and the planes........ not the union pilots.

 

Skywest thinks they are going to get in bed with CAL for 70 seaters and thats not going to happen. CAL pilot arent going to let it happen thankfully. I hope if that happens then XJT dumps the old crappy 135s and ERs on Skwests lap after they strip them down with all the upgrades XJT had done, or at least RIPS Skywest or CAL off on the price of the upgrades. XJT probably will be doing the mx on them also when its all said and done, boy i bet thats going to be expensive. Oh and it wouldnt be far fetched that the XJT training center might be doing the training, man that would be fun to sit in on wouldnt it. LOL Whats a shame is these non-union carriers are doing the flying that should be done by the mainline alpa pilots. The mainline pilots should at the very least stand up and stop non-union pilots from doing the flying. Its too bad I am not in charge of ALPA

 

as posted earlier it sounds like SKW is starting up a training program...who knows

 

just because a skywest FO in the "know" mentioned adding it onto the ticket doesnt mean a training program is a done deal