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#51
You aren't an anonymous person making a post as much as you are Tony Williams, a pilot from SKYW, who's a selected member of the pilot union. Everything you say is accountable in that aspect. Just like if our president sleeps with another woman during his "personal time" it still hurts the image of the nation on a political level. When you speak you aren't speaking personally even though that might be how you intend it. You speak for everyone who elected you as their chosen voice and thus are accountable.
PS. His name isn't Superpilot because he's cocky. It's because one of our chief pilots was a Puerto Rican who always called us that in class.
Last edited by ToiletDuck; 05-07-2008 at 11:22 AM.
#52
I got you beat! 6 whole hours at ORD last month. 0 so far this month, and the only open time I could grab was a local on the 24th!
#53
Been done with training for a while now thanks for checking though. Here is some news for you. Those same union pilots who let the cat out of the bag are currently working on putting it back. The merger contract that is being discussed right now will be reducing and putting a cap on the regional flying. This time though both the pilots and the mgmt teams want to reduce regional flying thus making it easier to get accomplished.
compass isn't any indication that those same union pilots are working to put the cat back in the bag.
how much fight did your union have when expressjet was loosing all of those props to non union carriers? (or how about those first 69 jets) the answer is non...sad isn't it.
#54
Uh, yah, that's what I said.... riiiiiiiight.
I doubt I'll end the debate, but lets recap:
1. I don't favor SkW buying XJT. How that becomes I relish "backdooring" XJT, I have no idea. The alarmist shrill is just that.
2. Obviously, some (many?) at XJT feel a seniority merger might happen if they are bought. I don't, and neither do SkW pilots (based on my super advanced "true colors" scientific poll).
3. Those same merger mania folks seem to think they'll be able to jam ALPA down our throats if we merge. Certainly, that's a possibility if we merged, which is probably the single biggest reason it won't happen.
4. The latest XJT finacials show that they've still got lots of money. The very same things that SkW would do to make XJT profitable are the very things they can do themselves.
5. I was dumb enough to suggest to the SAPA board that we develop a seniority integration plan for SkW, Inc. owned pilots (pilots who might want to go from one wholly owned carrier to another). Truly naitivity on my part.
6. It's just a fact that if XJT fails, pilots start over somewhere. Sad, but true. Not much to sugar coat there, boys and girls.
#55
Originally Posted by Eric Stratton
how much fight did your union have when expressjet was loosing all of those props to non union carriers? (or how about those first 69 jets) the answer is non...sad isn't it.
CAL ALPA scope doesn't limit turboprops, it limits turbojets. As such, the XJT MEC could complain but had no legal right or ability to "fight" Colgan getting the Qs instead of Mesaba, Horizon, or anybody else. That was a CAL management decision.
Along the same lines, XJT ALPA couldn't "fight" Continental exercising their contractual right to terminate a quarter of XJT's CAL flying.
People need to educate themselves on exactly what a union can, and what it cannot, "fight"...
#56
I don't see an error in judgement. I stand behind everything I've written, and am more than happy to debate the issues.
I could just start a new anonymous handle and keep going, but I would find that distasteful merely to appease somebody here.
I'm not a politician, not today, not tomorrow. Spewing feel-good crap, half truths, and the rest of politics makes me a bit ill. I'm not the president of the US either, and I don't care who gives him BJ's.
If I have something to say officially, it definitely hasn't been, nor will be here. Folks who want to inhibit my ability to speak as an individual are certainly welcome to their opinions.
I have your request.
#58
What could their union fight?
CAL ALPA scope doesn't limit turboprops, it limits turbojets. As such, the XJT MEC could complain but had no legal right or ability to "fight" Colgan getting the Qs instead of Mesaba, Horizon, or anybody else. That was a CAL management decision.
Along the same lines, XJT ALPA couldn't "fight" Continental exercising their contractual right to terminate a quarter of XJT's CAL flying.
People need to educate themselves on exactly what a union can, and what it cannot, "fight"...
CAL ALPA scope doesn't limit turboprops, it limits turbojets. As such, the XJT MEC could complain but had no legal right or ability to "fight" Colgan getting the Qs instead of Mesaba, Horizon, or anybody else. That was a CAL management decision.
Along the same lines, XJT ALPA couldn't "fight" Continental exercising their contractual right to terminate a quarter of XJT's CAL flying.
People need to educate themselves on exactly what a union can, and what it cannot, "fight"...
I wasn't even talking about the Q's.
what was alpa's position when express was furloughing while skywest was getting the 120's that express used to fly just a few months before that? whether they could or couldn't legally fight it, what was their position? what was their position when commute air moved into cleveland? their position was oh well lets try and get commute air and skywest to become alpa. sad but that's all they cared about.
#59
Line Holder
Joined: Jun 2007
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XJT MEC announced today a closed door MEC meeting at the request of Skywest. Info to follow the meeting:
XJT MEC Update
May 7, 2008
Special MEC Meeting
A special meeting of the XJT Master Executive Council has been called for this Friday, May 9. The meeting at XJT MEC headquarters in Houston was requested by our management on behalf of SkyWest management, which asked for the opportunity to address our MEC. We anticipate that sensitive, confidential financial information will be part of the discussion and, therefore, expect most of the meeting will be conducted in Executive Session. Nonetheless, we will pass along what information we can to the pilot group in a blastmail following the meeting.
XJT PILOTS NEED TO HOLD THE LINE.... ZERO CONCESSIONS!!! NO BUST OF SCOPE!!! NOT A PENNY WHEN GAS AND FOOD COSTS ARE 400% HIGHER THAN TWO YEARS AGO.
XJT MEC Update
May 7, 2008
Special MEC Meeting
A special meeting of the XJT Master Executive Council has been called for this Friday, May 9. The meeting at XJT MEC headquarters in Houston was requested by our management on behalf of SkyWest management, which asked for the opportunity to address our MEC. We anticipate that sensitive, confidential financial information will be part of the discussion and, therefore, expect most of the meeting will be conducted in Executive Session. Nonetheless, we will pass along what information we can to the pilot group in a blastmail following the meeting.
XJT PILOTS NEED TO HOLD THE LINE.... ZERO CONCESSIONS!!! NO BUST OF SCOPE!!! NOT A PENNY WHEN GAS AND FOOD COSTS ARE 400% HIGHER THAN TWO YEARS AGO.
#60
Prime Minister/Moderator

Joined: Jan 2006
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
I first assumed this was merely posting-under-the-influence, but it's been going on for a while now...
Tony: I agree with TD.
SuperPilot: Please finish probation before you leverage your status as a major airline pilot to tell us regional guys how it is. And that might take more than just one year...
Tony: I agree with TD.
SuperPilot: Please finish probation before you leverage your status as a major airline pilot to tell us regional guys how it is. And that might take more than just one year...



