Have you gotten checked out in the Diesel 9 yet ? Those union mainline pilots agreed with management's handing over their flying to regionals.

Maybe you should be in charge of the companies that hand out the contracts. I doubt ALPA would have any more impact in the future than they have in the past.

 

Been done with training for a while now thanks for checking though. Here is some news for you. Those same union pilots who let the cat out of the bag are currently working on putting it back. The merger contract that is being discussed right now will be reducing and putting a cap on the regional flying. This time though both the pilots and the mgmt teams want to reduce regional flying thus making it easier to get accomplished.

 

I just hope this isn't the reason why the want to get rid of XJT's Holding Letter. SKW buys XJT and then transfers aircraft over to SKW with their new authorization.

Continental stated in its letter that in the absence of entering into a new capacity purchase agreement with XJT that contains “savings of the magnitude we have negotiated with SkyWest”, then Continental expects to deliver a notice on June 28, 2008 to withdraw 51 aircraft from the Continental CPA.

It is clear that its a negotiating tactic on CAL's part. Either they get their savings from SKW or from an independent XJT. Nothing in that letter said that CAL was going to release aircraft if XJT didn't get bought out by SKW.

Also, if CAL releases aircraft from the CPA, XJT has the first right of refusal on them. This is the same deal they tried with CHQ. CAL thought XJT would give those aircraft back and they would sublease them to CHQ. I hope that SKW doesn't fall for the same trick because then SKW would be counting on calling XJT's bluff again.

Refer to my reply to flynavy.

 

Hey, thanks for straightening me out. Seems the regionals were great when you were building time to get to fly that 30 year old mainline plane, but now you've been in the "big show" for a few weeks, you're a-holes to belly buttons in line to get those bad regionals.

At least you don't hide behind your hypocrisy. Again, thanks for sharing.

 

Here is where you have again proven you dont know what you're talking about. Even when i was at the regionals i didnt want scope relaxation. I am and was the biggest advocate of CAL keeping the 50 seat Scope limitation. None of these jets ever should have been at any regional. I am no hypocrite, my goal has always been to move on and try to become part of the solution. You better believe my goal is to make sure no more mainline jobs are given away. Anyone in their right mind wouldnt want scope relaxation because the more RJs there are the less mainline jobs there are. The mainline pilot groups have finally seen the damage that was caused by allowing the first wave of regional jets and they/we are actively working on putting an end to it. The mainline companies are where the money is at. Even with concessionary payscales its far more than the regionals. If you are content flying at the regionals for regional pay then enjoy but dont be shocked when the majors all start cutting regional feed. Being at the whim of the major you fly for sucks no matter what regional you are at.

Also dont pretend you know how long i have been at NWA your wrong again, oh and your jab at my 30 year old airplane was cute, but most are 30-40 years old get it right. Also is flying an older airplane supposed to be a put down? Congrats on your "achievement" of aviating from the right seat in a CRJ and good luck with that case of SJS

 

i also hope not. i doubt that would be the case. not the way they like to do business in st. george. as far as i can tell by all the info you and others have posted, the biggest reason skywest inc. wants to negotiate that stuff out is so there doesn't have to be a merging of all the groups, which would create far more problems than it would solve, from a smoothly-running-company standpoint. maybe there are other clauses they would seek to change? i obviously don't know. you have mentioned what seems to be the biggest one.

 

Well said.

Now to add to the conversation... How much does it cost to add an aircraft? Perhaps SKYW is doing it as a scare tactic to help persuade XJT's decision to sell?

Although I'm not sure how much it would scare XJT..

 

the way things are going it looks like the majors care more about the Int'l Flying since those are the money makers. The majors might be more willing to be lax on the "domestic" scope clauses that gives more flying to the regionals and getting those aircraft at the regional closer to those 100 seat "regional" jets..

 

I'm wrong about how long you've been at the big show? I said weeks... so how many weeks, 10, 20 max ? Ya, you're an old hand now (snort, belch). Yeppers, you're the sheeeet.

I actually worked at Douglas Aircraft, building the DC-9, probably while you were filling your diapers up. I can't give ya too much grief, 'cuz I wouldn't want to be on the bottom of the seniority list of a merging airline, in an obsolete airplane. Good luck, chief.

Obviously, shiny jet syndrome isn't something you get in a DC9 !!!

 

Certainly counter to what sluperpilot is spewing. If regionals (contract) flying can be done cheaper, I suspect that will win out in the end. Just the facts of life.

I predict the first thing a merged NWA / DAL will do is park the DC-9 and replace it with some big regional type jets. What pilots will be flying them is the only real question in my mind.