United RFP???
05-17-2008 | 05:54 PM
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I am going to say no. The only thing United would need lift for is to replace Mesa (and that won't happen until Mesa is in Ch. 11 (end of June) or they close (end of the year)).
And please, I hate it when I hear 86 seat rumors, Q-400 rumors, and EMB-190 rumors for companies that have 70 seat scope clauses. Shut up, it will not happen!
And please, I hate it when I hear 86 seat rumors, Q-400 rumors, and EMB-190 rumors for companies that have 70 seat scope clauses. Shut up, it will not happen!
Well hate it all you like bit that's what UAL wants; spoke to the ZW DCA Chief Pilot and that's what we've been asked to bid on. 10 Q's in Den and and another 40 aircraft made up of 50's/70's and 90 seat airframes outfitted with 86 seats.
05-17-2008 | 05:57 PM
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AWAC has an exemption on the 70-seat scope, which is how they operated 100-seat BAe-146s for so long. What I don't know is if that exemption was valid only for those airframes or if it is for up to 18 airplanes with that many seats.
05-17-2008 | 06:23 PM
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Isn't United's scope clause set at 70 seats?
05-17-2008 | 06:42 PM
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05-17-2008 | 06:59 PM
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United's scope clause...
1-K-22 “Small Jets" means (a) Jet Aircraft that are certificated in the United States of America for seventy (70) or fewer seats and a maximum permitted gross takeoff weight of less than eighty thousand (80,000) pounds and (b) up to eighteen (18) specific aircraft with certificated seating capacity in excess of seventy (70) seats operated by Feeder Carrier Air Wisconsin Airlines Corp. ("AWAC"). These eighteen aircraft are identified as the "AWAC Quota"
Currently, the AWAC Quota is filled by BAe-146 aircraft with the following tail numbers: N463AP, N179US, N181US, N183US, N606AW, N607AW, N608AW, N609AW, N610AW, N611AW, N612AW, N614AW, N615AW, N616AW, N290UE, N291UE, N292UE, and N156TR.
AWAC may replace any aircraft within the AWAC Quota with:
(i) any other BAe-146 or AVRO 85 aircraft each with no more passenger seats than were carried in the actual operation of the replaced aircraft, or
(ii) any other aircraft with a maximum certificated seating capacity in the United States of eighty-five (85) seats and a maximum certificated gross takeoff weight in the United States of up to ninety thousand (90,000) pounds.
Currently, the AWAC Quota is filled by BAe-146 aircraft with the following tail numbers: N463AP, N179US, N181US, N183US, N606AW, N607AW, N608AW, N609AW, N610AW, N611AW, N612AW, N614AW, N615AW, N616AW, N290UE, N291UE, N292UE, and N156TR.
AWAC may replace any aircraft within the AWAC Quota with:
(i) any other BAe-146 or AVRO 85 aircraft each with no more passenger seats than were carried in the actual operation of the replaced aircraft, or
(ii) any other aircraft with a maximum certificated seating capacity in the United States of eighty-five (85) seats and a maximum certificated gross takeoff weight in the United States of up to ninety thousand (90,000) pounds.
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