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Old 05-21-2008 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tpersuit
It would be our flying until June 2009 when our CPA expires. Then it would be canceled and Skywest would just take it over at that point. This has been posted by actual Skywest pilots, not anti-Skywest posters. I fairly certain a ton of Skywest guys would love to get their hands on that LAX Delta base, even if they have to wait for our CPA to expire in 2009.
If SKYW takes the LAX DAL flying, I doubt they'll get a base there (apart from the reserve base they already have), they'll just staff it like they do the UAL LAX flying - from the outstations.
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Old 05-21-2008 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jedinein
Front line employees don't get too much of a say in a large corporation's business dealings. The RLA prevents airline workers from most of the things they could do to express their opinion.
reading comprehension? i read enough to know that what you were saying was incorrect in this instance. So you post incorrect info and get all pouty when someone that knows more about whats going on politely corrects you.... NICE
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Old 05-21-2008 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by newarkblows
reading comprehension? i read enough to know that what you were saying was incorrect in this instance. So you post incorrect info and get all pouty when someone that knows more about whats going on politely corrects you.... NICE
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Old 05-21-2008 | 08:46 PM
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EWRblows, what exactly is incorrect? The initial Skywest deal is gone. The pilots never had a say in it and never will. It is GONE. Finished. XJT BOD turned it down. Front line employees didn't get a single word in. As far as I can tell, front line employees didn't know about it 'til the SEC filing.

Sure the union is getting all stirred up now, as well they should be, but they are already at least five months behind, if not more. In another way, they are far ahead thanks to the foresight of earlier pilots that negotiated scope. Keeping scope intact should prevent some of the nastier side-effects of a purchase or merger. Scope doesn't prevent a purchase or merger. Scope only addresses what happens AFTER a purchase or merger.

Skywest, in the initial offer, which was declined and thus no longer exists, decided to make Scope an issue in their purchasing decision, they could have just as easily not mentioned anything about Scope.

The union doesn't get to determine who buys what corporation. I have yet to see anywhere in the contract where the pilot group gets a vote on mergers or outright purchases. If it is in there, please cite the section and paragraph.

BTW, my comprehension statement was directed to our man of many words in this thread, Superpilot92.
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Old 05-21-2008 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CL65driver
SkyWest can go fly a kite with their last offer. I'm actually offended by it to be quite honest.
True. I said it before, and I don't think I'm alone. But this thing is FAR from over. That was just the first offer, more than likely not their last, best, and final offer in this deal.

As far as which direction their next offer goes, who knows? Maybe they will play hardball and basically tell our MEC to jump in a lake and deal with the legal fall out later. OR, go the other route and try to negotiate something that minimizes furloughs, or delay them as long as possible. Just examples.
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Old 05-21-2008 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jedinein
EWRblows, what exactly is incorrect? The initial Skywest deal is gone. The pilots never had a say in it and never will. It is GONE. Finished. XJT BOD turned it down. Front line employees didn't get a single word in. As far as I can tell, front line employees didn't know about it 'til the SEC filing.

Sure the union is getting all stirred up now, as well they should be, but they are already at least five months behind, if not more. In another way, they are far ahead thanks to the foresight of earlier pilots that negotiated scope. Keeping scope intact should prevent some of the nastier side-effects of a purchase or merger. Scope doesn't prevent a purchase or merger. Scope only addresses what happens AFTER a purchase or merger.

Skywest, in the initial offer, which was declined and thus no longer exists, decided to make Scope an issue in their purchasing decision, they could have just as easily not mentioned anything about Scope.

The union doesn't get to determine who buys what corporation. I have yet to see anywhere in the contract where the pilot group gets a vote on mergers or outright purchases. If it is in there, please cite the section and paragraph.

BTW, my comprehension statement was directed to our man of many words in this thread, Superpilot92.

WRONG WRONG, in the initial offer of 3.50 a share it was still dependent on the changing of the contract, which can ONLY BE CHANGED BY.........................................THE PILOTS (or BK judge). SkyWest could just go out and buy us, but it would be under one seniority list, which they dont want (whipsaw)
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Old 05-21-2008 | 11:42 PM
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saab, because of my alcohol, I find myself saying " i love your mokey" besides that...fight the whipsaw...it'll turn out bad if ya dont.
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Old 05-22-2008 | 03:38 AM
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saab, because of my alcohol, I find myself saying " i love your mokey" besides that...fight the whipsaw...it'll turn out bad if ya dont.
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Old 07-11-2008 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DMEarc
Hey Einstein- CPA stands for Capacity Purchase Agreement, not Cost Plus Agreement.
I thought CPA stood for Certified Public Accountant. lol...
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Old 07-11-2008 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
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