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06-05-2008 | 11:25 AM

#61

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Originally Posted by Superpilot92

even southwest has cut back growth expectations.

I know this sounds crazy but I was flying in the 2nd JS up to STL from HOU. The three SWA guys were talking and one was a chkair and he was describing the sim setup they have. He said there are two open sim bays with nothing in them. Initially they were going to have additional 737 sims put in but that has been haulted. He heard rumor(i know i know) that SWA was going to cut flights into high traffic places like LAX and Vegas. Said the company was looking into doing fewer flights but with larger aircraft to ease congestion, lower ASM cost, and increase ground operational efficiency at those airports. He sighted the 787 as a possible cadidate. Don't know how much I believe that part. He said with oil the way it is SWA is looking at all possibilities.

06-05-2008 | 11:41 AM

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I was watching this senator from Oregon complain to Capitol Hill about having to fly a CRJ from EUG to SFO. He blamed SKW for his small seat (ignorance) and thanked GOD that UAL now operates a 737 on that route.

I’m not happy about it either but all I can say is "Welcome Back!" LOL!

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06-05-2008 | 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JetJock16

I was watching this senator from Oregon complain to Capitol Hill about having to fly a CR7 between EUG and SFO. He blamed SKW for his small seat (ignorance) and thanked GOD that UAL now operates a 737 on that route.

I’m not happy about it either but all I can say is welcome back! LOL!

That is exactly the p*** poor mentality of the flying public. They all want a 777 or 747 with first class pods, first class meals, free booze on a flight from (insert short hop here) for $139.

06-05-2008 | 11:49 AM

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Scary thing is, WE elected the dummie!

06-05-2008 | 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by WhizWheel

UAX is a rather profitable arm of UAL as a whole. Makes sense to do more of whats actually making you money in this industry rather than what is bleeding you out.

No profit, just feed.

This is from the first quarter earnings:
Operating revenues:
Passenger - Regional Affiliates 715

Operating expenses:
Regional affiliates 779

http://media.corporate-ir.net/media_...aseFINALv2.pdf

06-05-2008 | 12:11 PM

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Wife works at corporate. UAX makes money.

06-05-2008 | 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by WhizWheel

Wife works at corporate. UAX makes money.

You're refuting the 2008 Q1 results?

06-05-2008 | 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by paxhauler85

You're refuting the 2008 Q1 results?

Hey, I've seen the charts from inside. Plain and simple

06-05-2008 | 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by paxhauler85

You're refuting the 2008 Q1 results?

The numbers show that UAX had a net loss, but that doesn't account for feed.

What percentage of those UAX pax connected to mainline flights, including international? My guess is at least 60%, probably more like 70%

Take away that feed and you lose some lucrative long-range pax, because most are not going to drive to the hub...the competetion will provide feed to THEIR hub.

Actually I think the question today is not one of profit, but of loss...ie what is going to lose LESS money? 12% less is probably pretty good these days

06-05-2008 | 12:24 PM

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The numbers show that regional had a net loss, but that doesn't account for feed.

There's a difference between drawing revenue and feeding passengers, and making money. The way whiz refers to it makes it seem like there's profit involved.

If it didn't make financial sense, UAL wouldn't cut it off, but we would all know it.