The problem with UND and ERAU kids is they think they have everything figured out and are entitled....Big mistake. What do you honestly know about the regionals and airlines after your overpriced degree and one year or so flying?

I hated and still hate that attitude. Fresh out of diapers and got it all figured out because of the shiny degree.

I can tell there are a lot of senior legacy guys that don't know of a lot of regionals such as XJet and others depending on domecile. DC9's are going bye bye. Get over it. The only thing I have ever heard is that anything over 76 seats should be mainline. Why would a 50 seat jet ever go that direction?

I will take a lifetime of experience over a couple of overpriced classes any day before I start hurling uninformed insults towards fellow pilots.

 

I am not sure when you got hired by XJT but without getting into which regional is worse, had you been hired at Mesaba let say last year about this time you would have about 600 pilots below you in seniority and you would have upgraded to Saabs making Saab CA pay which is $44/hr. Not a great pay but better than XJT FO first year pay. Wait a few more months, you can upgrade into CRJ9. I also know plenty of Pinnacle pilots who have moved on to bigger airlines. I am not saying you made a mistake because XJT is a good regional by all accounts, but you should know what looks like a great regional today can be a not so good one tomorrow. This is true to Mesaba of course but as of right now, you'd probably be better situated at Mesaba or Pinnacle than at XJT.

 

Obviously, you are way off there. ERAU is overpriced, UND is not. UND is a public school and when I went there I paid about $2,000/semester for tuition, so I'm not to sure where overpriced comes in.

You seem to have a bias towards those that went to college. Interesting to see you hate attitudes of those with a "degree" yet you have a really bad one yourself... interesting.

 

ERAU graduate. Thanks though.

Overpriced is the flight training.

Interesting.

 

So I should have picked my regional for upgrade time?
Guess I should have gone to Mesa or GoJets then.
$44/hr looks SOOOO appealing. I'll probably make close to the same take home as that SAAB CA, this year, as a XJT FO, and not even have the responsibility of being CA.

I'm not getting into a bashing of regionals here. I know very well that Mesaba used to have one of the best regional contracts out there. However, after NWA screwed it, it has insanely low pay for the -900 and terrible FO pay across the board, $28/hr second year pay?!

As for upgrading to CA at Mesaba, that wouldn't have happened. I'm pretty sure I would've needed 1,500 TT and I wouldn't have had that. My buddy over there was hired around the same time last year and he can't upgrade.

As for being better situated at Mesaba or Pinnacle than XJT, I highly doubt it. You forget who NWA is merging with and all those feeds on the east coast have no idea what is going to happen. People ripped on XJT for how unstable we are, but then we just signed a 7 year CPA with CAL that guarantees us at least 190 aircraft or about 2,000 pilots.

Another thing you have to take into account is QOL. Yes, even though ExpressJet stopped hiring, I will be making any where between $38K-$42K on second year pay. So if the industry slows down, where would you rather be? I'll take getting stuck with really good work rules and pay any day. I'm sure those pilots at Mesa are feeling really cherry right now.

 

My friend that went to ERAU had $120K in debt when she left, and that is without her CFI's. We had somewhere in the $70K range after we finished with CFI, CFII and the CRJ coarse at UND. Flight training costs weren't too bad there. Might have paid 5-10% over a general aviation school's costs and flew 2-year or newer aircraft. So minus the $15K-$20K for tuition and another $10K you probably spent on rent you are down to ~$40K-$45K to get you private, instrument, commercial (SE and ME), CFI, CFII and CRJ transition. not too shabby.

 

This has strayed way off topic. Good for you and I am glad you are proud.

I made a little over 30000 for my year of training and not once flew a prop. Hooray me.

Point is bashing others is off key. Glad you love work rules and pay. We all should. Belittling others is silly. We all do the same job. If QOL was priority one for me I would have been at Horizon. But such is such.

This has turned into a mine is bigger than yours. Keep arguing so I can slip out the back door with yo date.

 

You have a serious chip on your shoulder by your responses to people here. Seriously dude, you need to chill a little. I am glad you are happy with your choice. Be happy and take others opinion for what they are. No one here is really interested in what's happening at XJT because we are too busy watching the trend for our own regionals. What does Mesa and GoJet have to do with Mesaba and Pinnacle. Your responses makes no sense ranting about Mesa. No one here has suggested you go to Mesa or GoJet.

ERAU is a good school so no need to rant about that either. Everybody knows the good reputation of ERAU as an aviation school.

 

You guys are making this into me bashing others. You made a comment about upgrading at Mesaba by now. I made the comment if I use that theory why shouldn't I have gone to GoJets. The only one with a chip on the shoulder appear to be you guys that really want to defend the low -900 rates at Mesaba and Pinnacle.

 

Well you should have gone to Horizon. Going to Pinnacle or Mesaba is your problem, not mine.