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Originally Posted by Past V1
(Post 401415)
I have a question NWA320Pilot....when you merge are you gonna change you name to...hmmmm.....I dont know.....Delta320Pilot.....creative!!!!;)
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Originally Posted by NWA320pilot
(Post 401417)
This is the type of response I might expect from a grade schooler...... Grow up a little. All I was doing is stating my observations. I do understand that its not the pilots fault. I have many Pinnacle pilot friends and I know that they all relay their frustrations with company problems.
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Originally Posted by RJtrashPilot
(Post 401369)
Pinnacle Pilots:
I can sympathize with you. Your management is going to blame this on you, even though it is their failure. We at Comair played this same game just a year or two ago while we were in contract negotiations, however ours was under the threat of bankruptcy and an 1113 process to have our contract tossed. When we lost 30+ airplanes and even more through a sham RFP that stripped us of 16 CRJ 700s, it did not help our contract situation. We, the pilots, were blamed for that and the company spun it in a way that made the rest of the employee groups hate us. |
Originally Posted by nicholasblonde
(Post 401365)
Yeah...wholly owned carriers are SO safe. Oh wait, I almost forgot about the historical beating taken by Mesaba and Comair by their abusive parents.
Originally Posted by Past V1
(Post 401419)
Ok company man....Im sorry....now read the above post...LOL
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Originally Posted by NWA320pilot
(Post 401417)
This is the type of response I might expect from a grade schooler...... Grow up a little. All I was doing is stating my observations. I do understand that its not the pilots fault. I have many Pinnacle pilot friends and I know that they all relay their frustrations with company problems.
You're welcome to sit on my jumpseat anytime and observe. I think you will find we have no gradeschoolers working for us. Middle schoolers and high schoolers, well i'll agree to that :) Im not even sure if Past V1 works at pinnacle.... |
Originally Posted by skywatch
(Post 401425)
I thought Comair lost the RFP because Delta thought the costs (pilot pay rates) were not competitive, not because they had poor OT performance...I am missing how these situations are comparable. It would seem to me that the Comair issue was the whipsaw thing, and the Pinnacle issue is a completely different one, that being the ability to cancel the contract due to poor OT.
Either crew costs or poor performance, it is still painful. We were under contract negotiations, as is Pinnacle. We had authorized a strike, as has Pinnacle. We had lost airframes and flying to other carriers, and it seems Pinnacle will also. That was my point. |
Originally Posted by Past V1
(Post 401364)
Are you kidding dude....Why is it profitable for an airline to "wholly own" as you say an airline when they can subcontract "for cheaper" (by the way those are my two words)....Mesaba and Compass WILL be sold Like pinnacle was and Comair will be sold too....Delta has already stated that...they are just waiting for the market to jump back up and sell it for top dollar....WAKE UP!!!
Not sure what version of MS Flight Simulator you "F/O" for but most of your comments are pretty juvenile. |
Originally Posted by andy171773
(Post 401428)
Lay off the coffee, so far this thread is fairly flame bait free and professional, can we keep the personal attacks to a minimum? |
Originally Posted by nicholasblonde
(Post 401365)
Yeah...wholly owned carriers are SO safe. Oh wait, I almost forgot about the historical beating taken by Mesaba and Comair by their abusive parents.
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Originally Posted by mooney
(Post 401370)
however, that's Mesaba's and NWA's fault, not Pinnacle's. That's what happens when your Pappa Bear (NWA) forces you to use your competitor's ground crew :confused:
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