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Old 09-03-2014 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd
Amen Reverend. I'm not passing up my opportunity, that's for sure, It may not be perfect but how much different could the end result look. Then we miss our chance, so sorry I'm not that nice. Respect is an intangible benefit to me, my career is not. I appreciate y'all but I think you are dead-ended. I've got to make the right choice for myself. Yes, it is about me, and my co-workers and our future.
This attitude is exactly why ALPA has failed. I don't blame you for wanting your "day in the sun." Everyone does. Just look at the big picture, if you guys could find it in you to stand with your ALPA brothers, it could be monumental.

Don't kid yourself. This deal is completely concessionary. There is NO contractual GAINES.
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Old 09-03-2014 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by minimwage4
Nothing will change, they're just going to merge you guys with envoy. Your flow number then will be out of a thousand instead of a few hundred. Might as well not take the first offer. Never take a first offer.
Everybody is an airline CEO here, there's only one thing certain here. Non of us know the future of pdt, not even our own CEO (farrow). It's a gamble both ways.
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Old 09-03-2014 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by flyviper
Everybody is an airline CEO here, there's only one thing certain here. Non of us know the future of pdt, not even our own CEO (farrow). It's a gamble both ways.
The only thing that's certain is they want you to work for as little as possible. Don't take the first offer. They need you and envoy. Look past the trickle flow to mainline.
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Old 09-03-2014 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by maveric311
This attitude is exactly why ALPA has failed. I don't blame you for wanting your "day in the sun." Everyone does. Just look at the big picture, if you guys could find it in you to stand with your ALPA brothers, it could be monumental.

Don't kid yourself. This deal is completely concessionary. There is NO contractual GAINES.
You mean stand with the same ALPA nation brothers the lied and sold ALG and PDT down the river a few years ago?? I think NOT!! ALPA is a political machine. Full of lies and cover ups.
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Old 09-03-2014 | 08:46 AM
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You mean stand with the same ALPA nation brothers the lied and sold ALG and PDT down the river a few years ago?? I think NOT!! ALPA is a political machine. Full of lies and cover ups.
Then change your representation. That's like doing things out of spite against your lawyers firm because you hate your lawyer while keep paying him for his services. Makes you look really intelligent.
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Old 09-03-2014 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Then change your representation. That's like doing things out of spite against your lawyers firm because you hate your lawyer while keep paying him for his services. Makes you look really intelligent.
Yep it's easy for regionals to change ALPA nation reps. Durrrr!!!!

Intelligence ????
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Old 09-03-2014 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by minimwage4
The only thing that's certain is they want you to work for as little as possible. Don't take the first offer. They need you and envoy. Look past the trickle flow to mainline.
LOL! Don't take the first offer? So your saying the second offer will be WAY BETTER?
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Old 09-03-2014 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd
Amen Reverend. I'm not passing up my opportunity, that's for sure, It may not be perfect but how much different could the end result look. Then we miss our chance, so sorry I'm not that nice. Respect is an intangible benefit to me, my career is not. I appreciate y'all but I think you are dead-ended. I've got to make the right choice for myself. Yes, it is about me, and my co-workers and our future.
I hope on an overnight, you have the nads to tell me what you posted here.
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Old 09-03-2014 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by maveric311
Your LOA is crap. Just as the envoy AIP was crap. Jus as the PSA deal IS crap. Just as the envoy "B Scale" was crap. No one can tell you guys how to for but yourselves. What is true is that PDT is the last whipsaw of the wholly owned regionals. A no vote from you guys could serve a spring board to completely restructure ALPA and abandon this failed PATTERN BARGAINING. A YES vote perpetuates the whipsaw, the regional model, maintains the status quo, and sets us up for a monster merger.

The choice is yours now.
This is why I don't understand the pilot group. Why on earth would you want to do anything that prolongs your life at a regional airline? I mean I understand why lifers will vote for it, but if there is any accuracy in this thread where it will pass with 70%, I have to question what's wrong with you guys?
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Old 09-03-2014 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by driver61
I hope on an overnight, you have the nads to tell me what you posted here.
He'll be at a mainline hotel and all this will be a fart in the wind.
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