You're wrong.

 

PDT pilots are being told they'll be at mainline in 5 years when in reality it will be closer to 8-10 years. Don't fool yourself. Piedmont pilots are smarter than that.
BilliHo is all in for this so he can get his big $ bonus $ for pushing this trough. How about you tell us who you really are??

 

8 to 10 years?? Really?? When they have just over 300 pilots. And the fact that the top 80 pilots are in there mid to late 50's. hahahahah Everyone that is on this list will be gone in 4-5 years. Period! Depending on equipment coming to replace the Dash's. If its the EMB 175's then many more will pass up on the flow to stay and be senior Captains and more junior guys will get to American faster. This TA is a great deal for the Senior Pilots and a great opportunity for the young junior guys/gals. Everyone actually gets a pay raise also.

Striker..... My name is Captain Ted Striker.

 

And just for giggles the person that had no clue about what's going on at the PDT training Dept. that said they didn't have classes going. Sept has two classes of 22 people that will be going through. Guess people are actually wanting to go there again.

 

Obviously I would say it, and we would have to agree to disagree. Wouldn't that be the professional thing to do? Unionism doesn't give you a free pass to be a thug or a bully. I'm in DCA, CRW, and PHL this weekend, in that order, if you want to debate. It appears you are MIA based, perhaps we could chat there. My wife would enjoy a FL vacation, it's starting to cool off at home.

 

Yes that's what I'm saying.

 

How good were the second offers at Envoy, ExpressJet, and Republic?

 

Well, Envoy was originally offered the current PSA disaster.

When they came back they offered, among other things:

Fleet guarantee of 170 aircraft minimum.

Enhanced flow through (no interview) to AA for everyone including future new hires.

The FIRST 60 E-175s purchased from the factory plus the next 90 options. Any E-175s acquired from any other source than the factory would not have counted toward the 60+90 numbers.

A 4/12 pay cap that was staggered over the next few years instead of taking effect right away. Anybody outside of the 4/12 would not have a snap back.

That is just for starters. There was more but they absolutely improved their offer for Envoy.

In regards to Piedmont, it's like I said before: Their biggest asset is their pilots. At the end of the day AA needs those pilots regardless of which aircraft they are flying. In other words: Piedmont is NOT going anywhere regardless of how you vote. Just as Envoy IS NOT going anywhere.

A NO vote by Piedmont may, JUST MAY put both airlines (Piedmont and Envoy) back in the driver's seat and bring enhanced contract proposals. On the other hand, a YES vote by Piedmont would just drag out these horrible PSA style contracts for the next decade.

 

A no Vote "May" shut down the airline of only 300 pilots. Hard to replace them?? hahahahah Hello Airwiskey! We'd like to extend our current contract for 5 more years. Replacing an airline with 25 year old Dash's and only 300 pilots is kinda easy. Nothing compared to Envoy. Plus you guys had a get out of jail free card! How many senior guys that are now at American would've voted NO if they didn't have the flow in there pocket?? I remember a bunch saying, "screw it! shut it down! We'll just Flow!" PDT people don't have that luxury!!
And So basically Eagle was gonna get all the E-175's??? Where did that leave PDT people?

This vote will pass..... It's time PDT people look after PDT people.

 

I personally know of 5 pilots that voted NO then flowed to AA the very next day.