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Old 07-30-2008 | 01:44 PM
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For anyone who has taken the written at Mesa recently, are their Weight and Balance questions from the ATP just curious, since I'm prepping....I had my ATP on lock in June for Comair interview but then we all know how that ended up for everyone....
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Old 07-30-2008 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Drums4life
I'm giving up a year seniority to leave Mesa and go to SkyWest. It will actually be more like 1.5 years if and when SkyWest starts running classes again. If I would have instructed longer I could have gone to them sooner and been building seniority with them. Just the other night I was on reserve 12am-12pm then got a call I was flying to Cincinnati at 10pm and then flying back to JFK. We ended up landing at 3 am, yes a 15 hour duty day, but I had commuted in that day so it was more like a 20 hour day. 3 hours of credit......sweet... and thanks Mesa!

Best post on this entire thread.
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Old 07-30-2008 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Drums4life
I'm giving up a year seniority to leave Mesa and go to SkyWest. It will actually be more like 1.5 years if and when SkyWest starts running classes again. If I would have instructed longer I could have gone to them sooner and been building seniority with them. Just the other night I was on reserve 12am-12pm then got a call I was flying to Cincinnati at 10pm and then flying back to JFK. We ended up landing at 3 am, yes a 15 hour duty day, but I had commuted in that day so it was more like a 20 hour day. 3 hours of credit......sweet... and thanks Mesa!
Same team here but am looking for some clarification on your post.

You didn't have to come to the airport until 9:15, and was released at 3 am. 6:15 on "duty" by my count. The other 9:45, you should have been at your crashpad sleeping, watching TV, APC-ing etc.

Don't let your bitterness towards Mesa paint an unrealistic picture of what the rest of us deal with everyday.
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Old 07-30-2008 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by paxhauler85
Same team here but am looking for some clarification on your post.

You didn't have to come to the airport until 9:15, and was released at 3 am. 6:15 on "duty" by my count. The other 9:45, you should have been at your crashpad sleeping, watching TV, APC-ing etc.

Don't let your bitterness towards Mesa paint an unrealistic picture of what the rest of us deal with everyday.
If I'm at a crash pad unable to drink then that sounds like duty time to me. Who said I'm bitter? That was just one example of a very realistic day I had at Mesa. I unfortunately have had plenty other days not as good as that one.
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Old 07-30-2008 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Drums4life
If I'm at a crash pad unable to drink then that sounds like duty time to me. Who said I'm bitter? That was just one example of a very realistic day I had at Mesa. I unfortunately have had plenty other days not as good as that one.
Apologize for assuming. Good luck to you guys at Freedom.
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Old 07-31-2008 | 03:34 PM
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ok,......just out of interest how many guys are going to this open house gig in the morning in ord
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Old 07-31-2008 | 04:41 PM
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"upgrade at mesa?...those days are over you will be riding that turd of an airline until it goes belly up and never upgrade...."

I was hired 10 Mar 08 for the DHC8. I am scheduled for upgrade training on 3 Sep 08. Today, upgrades can be quick for those that already have met ATP minimums. Who knows what tomorrow will bring.
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Old 07-31-2008 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Maria80386
Does the pilot group have the "everything" on their to-do list for this current round of contract negotiations?
When would a strike be possible? I may go to work for Mesa or worse, but I ain't crossing a picket line.
Outstanding! In the midst of all of the blah blah about "my sub par pay is better than your sub-er par pay", "my fatigue-inducing schedule is better than your slightly more fatiguing schedule", etc, it is a relief to hear some real solidarity.

The MAG MEC is working hard on significant contract improvements. They face an uphill fight dealing with a very tightwad company during a very labor-hostile period for our nation.

I think a strike is unlikely because I do not think the current president will allow one to occur under the LRA. If I remember correctly, when another airline strike was looming, the White House stated that if the pilots struck, their FAA certificates would be revoked.
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Old 07-31-2008 | 05:05 PM
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What are the key points on the table for this round of contract negotiations?
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Old 07-31-2008 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Stryker
What are the key points on the table for this round of contract negotiations?
1. Block or better.
2. Trip rigs - minimum pay for a days work.
3. Duty rigs - stipulations regarding duty periods and compensation.
4. More days off per bid period for lineholders and reserves.
5. A raise.
6. Increase in training pay.
7. Full deadhead pay (currently 50%).

At an absolute bare minimum, I want to see #'s 1,4, 5 and 7.

I'm confident that the rest of the pilot group will not vote in a contract with any less.
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