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Old 07-17-2008 | 08:13 PM
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Im in the August 13th interview. Even if you don't take the job, an interview is an interview, I think it prepares you better for future interviews. Especially if it's your first one. And oh boo hoo its MESA....It's nice to bash people who want to start flying a jet and had been working as instructors for a year now and got screwed by the industry. Unfortunately the people doing the bashing are the ones who got in at 300 hrs into a right seat. Now that regionals are furloughing, those non CFIs have some rough times ahead. So dont bash people trying to get a job just because you have one and you're company is about to go under.
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Old 07-17-2008 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PolishPilot
And oh boo hoo its MESA....It's nice to bash people who want to start flying a jet
OMG. Can you say SJS?
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Old 07-17-2008 | 08:36 PM
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Mesa pilots ARE THE PROBLEM.

You self entitled "will fly for food" types help put many of my friends out of jobs in Hawaii, while never fighting management against lost vacations, low pay, industry leading fatigue, and poor working conditions.

DO NOT WORK FOR MESA.

The job isn't worth having if you personally are responsible for holding back the entire industry pay rates. Enjoy your 8 days off a month, and $22K a year job. If I ever do an interview for a Mesa guy I will be sure to tell him why he isn't getting the job! How about striking against management, and getting closer to $40K on first year pay, with 15+ days off a month.
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Old 07-17-2008 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by CFDoubleeye
How about striking against management, and getting closer to $40K on first year pay, with 15+ days off a month.
Uh, exactly which of the regionals is currently offering that package?
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Old 07-17-2008 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by PolishPilot
Im in the August 13th interview. Even if you don't take the job, an interview is an interview, I think it prepares you better for future interviews. Especially if it's your first one. And oh boo hoo its MESA....It's nice to bash people who want to start flying a jet and had been working as instructors for a year now and got screwed by the industry. Unfortunately the people doing the bashing are the ones who got in at 300 hrs into a right seat. Now that regionals are furloughing, those non CFIs have some rough times ahead. So dont bash people trying to get a job just because you have one and you're company is about to go under.
It's sink or swim time for a lot of you guys waiting to get into this industry. I know the comments here can sometimes be a bit negative towards Mesa...Polish Pilot, as long as you are aware of some of the challenges here at MAG, you'll be fine. It's a risky profession, as you've stated, there really isn't much else at this time. So it's human nature to get moving take what you can. It could be awhile before you get the opportunity again. My 5 years at Mesa have been good to me, I've learned a lot flying with 10,000 to 20,000 hr. captains, as well as 300 hr. F/Os. Many opportunities have been afforded to me that I might not have had at other carriers. Last but not least, I work for myself and my family, not my CEO. Do your research, know what you're potentially getting yourself into, and don't have any regrets.

Jeszcze Polska Nie Zginela...
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Old 07-17-2008 | 08:50 PM
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None - don't you see the problem. We as pilots need to unite, and demand respectable pay (and 40K is not respectable).

You paid over 100K for this career, yet you accept 8 days off a month and less than 25K a year? How stupid are you for taking those work rules?

MESA is an ALPA carrier????? How does ALPA allow MESA to rob from their employees vacations, and under pay them? How does ALPA allow a regional airline to come into a market and bankrupt two ALPA carriers, putting thousands out of jobs?

ExpressJet is where I am at.... and we at least lead the industry pay and work rules. Our pilots are now willing to take such a stand on pay/benefits that we may close the entire business. Management is now coming to us for 5% pay cuts - and I am setting the example as I have taken another job for respectable pay in defense contracting, and will inform them at the proper time that I have quit for lack of pay and work rules.
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Old 07-17-2008 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CFDoubleeye
Mesa pilots ARE THE PROBLEM.

You self entitled "will fly for food" types help put many of my friends out of jobs in Hawaii, while never fighting management against lost vacations, low pay, industry leading fatigue, and poor working conditions.

DO NOT WORK FOR MESA.

The job isn't worth having if you personally are responsible for holding back the entire industry pay rates. Enjoy your 8 days off a month, and $22K a year job. If I ever do an interview for a Mesa guy I will be sure to tell him why he isn't getting the job! How about striking against management, and getting closer to $40K on first year pay, with 15+ days off a month.
Ignorance.

A) We are CONSTANTLY in ALPA sponsored suits against management. Mesa pilots as a whole would LOVE to take a hard-nosed stance against Management, but RLA dictates other prior measures must be taken.

B) MESA Pilots which again you pointed out to be the source of all your heartache, had NOTHING TO DO with Mesa's move to Hawaii. That was all our slimy management's call.

C) NO airline starts you at $40K a year with 15+ days off.

Mesa pilots were whipsawed against non-union pilots during our '02 CBA. To get all of the flying ALPA unionized (which as an Expressjet pilot your a member of) we lost EVERYTHING. So in the future, stop BASHING your fellow ALPA brothers and sisters, and help us work towards a higher quality contract in our current negotiations.
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Old 07-17-2008 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by PolishPilot
It's nice to bash people who want to start flying a jet and had been working as instructors for a year now and got screwed by the industry.
How has one year CFI's been "screwed by the industry"? Oh my God! You mean people instruct for more than a year?!?!

Give me a break.
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Old 07-17-2008 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sidestep
C) NO airline starts you at $40K a year with 15+ days off.
Actually, a new-hire could easily make into the upper 40's @ World and even swing 15 days off.
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Old 07-17-2008 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by norskman2
OMG. Can you say SJS?
sure shiny jet syndrome, but he has instructed for a year because the industry screwed him

did he apply to be a go getter too?
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