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Old 07-17-2008 | 10:42 PM
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Those considering MESA should go into it a lot deeper then just thinking about the dirty shiny MESA CRJ they could be flying. MESA is in financial troubles. Delta could either say goodbye and take all the flying if they win the appeal, or pay a fine and still stop the flying. Either way Mesa is in deep trouble.
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Old 07-18-2008 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Zapata
How has one year CFI's been "screwed by the industry"? Oh my God! You mean people instruct for more than a year?!?!

Give me a break.
i didnt say instructing is the reason i was screwed by the industry.....I was simply saying a lot of people making the negative comments who work for a regional got in with minimum hours and never did instruct. I was screwed because like many others, got a job at an outstanding regional, wait, two outstanding regionals. Eagle and Comair. and now im swimming in a pool. Everyone is bashing everybody else, but how about for those two great regionals who hired like madman and now are furloughing, how about for all the other companys furloughing? give me a break about bad management, it seems like EVERY regional airline has horrible management.
As to horrible pay and minimum days off per month, if you were a CFI then you know. I work 6 days a week, sometimes 7. Im at the school for 12 hours a day and get paid for 8. So its nothing new. And wouldn't we all love to have a starting pay of 40K and 15 days off per month.
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Old 07-18-2008 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by PolishPilot
Im in the August 13th interview. Even if you don't take the job, an interview is an interview, I think it prepares you better for future interviews. Especially if it's your first one. And oh boo hoo its MESA....It's nice to bash people who want to start flying a jet and had been working as instructors for a year now and got screwed by the industry. Unfortunately the people doing the bashing are the ones who got in at 300 hrs into a right seat. Now that regionals are furloughing, those non CFIs have some rough times ahead. So dont bash people trying to get a job just because you have one and you're company is about to go under.
Wow, ignorance at its finest. Listen pal my company isn't anywhere NEAR going under but I must say that you smell of flamebait. So you don't get to fly your shiny new jet after ONE YEAR of instructing......are you for real? Like your ENTITLED to an airline job because you put in a YEAR as an instructor? Whoa man are in for some brow beating if and when you do get into the airlines because those of us with reality in check will put up with that attitude for about 3 seconds.
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Old 07-18-2008 | 06:31 AM
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I second JetJock's question Maria.........what top tier regional were you furloughed from? Oh and a pink slip means you are terminated. A furlough is not a termination even if it is on a pink piece of paper.

So lets see.......top tier regionals that have already furloughed.

SkyWest - no mention of even WARN letters
RAH - IF it goes through......Sept 1
XJet - mention of it but nobody on the street yet
Eagle - no mention (as far as I know) of a furlough
Comair - nobody on the street yet

Am I forgetting any? What gives?
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Old 07-18-2008 | 07:12 AM
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I don't know for a fact but I had heard that Eagle has projected furloughs. You can almost bet on the XJET furloughs because of the branded flying going away.
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Old 07-18-2008 | 08:57 AM
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It is fairly easy to get burned out on this CFI thing. Especially when some guys are complaining about only getting 8 days off a month. And as a CFI, I'd love to know what having 8 days off a month feels like. We get about 2-3 days off a month if we're lucky. Don't even start me on the amount you get paid for the full week of work. Mesa is also something a lot of us are considering because there is no light at the end of the tunnel anywhere else. Being in a pool at Eagle, or Comair your options are limited with everyone elses furloughing or announced furloughing intentions.

Many of you think that being a "CFI" is the honorable thing to do but, being honorable doesn't always pay the bills. Ask the AMFA mechanics at NWA, how striking for unfair wages worked out for them in 2004. In the end this industry is what it is. And you will be used by your company, so if a company offers you a way to progress through your career, take it. No one has SJS here. At some point another 100 hours of dual given SEL means nothing on your resume. Turbine time is more valuable then anything you can do in a Da-20 or C172, and it it would help all of those teaching steep turns and stall progress in the careers.
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Old 07-18-2008 | 09:04 AM
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We should have less threads about Mesa and more threads about beer.
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Old 07-18-2008 | 09:10 AM
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Do yourself a favor....and delete the email that says..."we would like for you to visit us for an interview" from your inbox now....you will make more cfiing and you will catch less crap from people for not working there....
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Old 07-18-2008 | 09:48 AM
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So where did you get this "pink slip" from?
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Old 07-18-2008 | 09:58 AM
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Guys, we have folks looking at coming back to Mesa for the second time after being furloughed from United for the second time in 9yrs. It's a nasty industry, you go where you need to in order to feed your family and pay your bills w/ your skill...granted, you don't make much here @ Mesa your first couple years, but I'm not gonna bad mouth United pilots for doing what they need to do. Get into the industry while you can because many of these opportunities are going to evaporate here pretty quick and might not come back around for quite awhile.

Mesa and the Dash 8 have treated me well over the last 5 yrs. I can't speak for the rest of the company, but there are pilots who are happy and content right now @ MAG, as hard as that may be to believe.

Good luck to all aspiring pilots right now trying to break into this industry.
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