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Old 07-25-2008 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by UNDGUY
I have to say that I am very happy I quit instructing to come to Mesa. I have more days off and I am making way more money, I also don't have nearly the amount of stress that is involved in sending off students on solos and hoping that don't come back with a number from the FAA for me to call, or signing off for checkrides and hoping they don't screw something up that they have done perfect fifty times before. Say what you want about Mesa but I have had a descent experience and I am happy to come to work and do something I love. When I was at UND everyone wanted Air Wisky or Horizon. Many of those people that went there will soon be furloughed. Oh and a couple of my flight instructors went to Skyway. Then when I started flight instructing everyone I worked with wanted to go to XJT or Republic. Many of them were going to those places when I came to Mesa and they are now being furloughed. I still have my job, how secure who knows. I have been getting 11 or 12 days off per bid and I have never had to sleep anywhere except a hotel room while working for Mesa, so you can all quit spewing that crap. Regionals are about one thing: gaining experience and moving on. My regional is better than your regional is stupid. They are all crap shoots and todays " top tier" is tomorrows bankrupt. I've worked Mcdonalds, retail, busted my back daily working construction. I am really happy to have the job I have and I think a little perspective can do wonders. We fly airplanes and get paid to do so. Maybe I am short sided and bringing down the industry but I am happy and my bills get paid so whatever.
VERY WELL SAID UNDGUY! finally someone with some sense....
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Old 07-25-2008 | 01:22 PM
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VERY WELL SAID UNDGUY! finally someone with some sense....
Why, because he supports your theory? Overwhelming majoirty say and feel otherwise. Amazing.
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Old 07-25-2008 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by WhizWheel
Thats great. I just wasn't willing to continue waiting for years and years at Mesa under the old crapbag contract while JO and his crooked braintrust do everything in their power to drag the implementation of a new and better contract into place. I also saw an attrition rate of close to 100 pilots a month as a bad sign, large lawsuits yet to be determined as a bad sign and general apathy and malaise from many of the remaining pilot group not very appealing. SO, based on those factors (and others) I felt it would not be in my best interest to stay. If you stay and can make a difference, kudos. You've moved a mountain.
So you have a good contract now, but what if that changes in two years - bankruptcy, concessions, etc. - do you recomend that people just run away or should they stay and fight at your airline?
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Old 07-25-2008 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by skywatch
So you have a good contract now, but what if that changes in two years - bankruptcy, concessions, etc. - do you recomend that people just run away or should they stay and fight at your airline?
Listen, where I'm at we have a decent contract. Could it be better? Yes. But if we end up voting in a contract that is less than what we have now, why on earth would I stick around to try and get a better one when history would have shown me that the pilot group as a whole, despite valient efforts on the part of others, will in the end shoot themselves in the foot? Thats foolish. If I saw the momentum of the group at MAG moving forward and making progress I may have stayed. I didn't so I left. Apathy is just toxic to me and I saw more than I cared for over there.
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Old 07-25-2008 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by AirWillie
Anybody that goes to MESA is screwing the regionals. Their last POS contract is one of the reasons why the bar has been lowered in this sector of the industry. Don't go to MESA.
So, using your logic....Comair had contract #2 when MESA was working on contract #1...Comair had a crap contract and PFT so we should blame Comair for our crap 1st contract?.....is that your logic?
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Old 07-26-2008 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by logic1
So, using your logic....Comair had contract #2 when MESA was working on contract #1...Comair had a crap contract and PFT so we should blame Comair for our crap 1st contract?.....is that your logic?
Easy there, I wouldn't try using logic on AirWillie...he's not too familiar with that concept.
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Old 07-26-2008 | 08:37 AM
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Has anyone been to a "cattle call" interview session before? I'm attending the upcoming Denver call for Mesa and was wondering how different, if any, is the interview process compared to when they fly you into their HUB and have an official sit down interview? I'm talking in general, info on Mesa's would be best, but any experience at these would be helpful....I'm not talking about a gouge by the way.
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Old 07-26-2008 | 09:39 AM
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I have been to a SkyWest group interview. They start off giving you company information and then show a video with photos of their departments. Then they break you off into groups and assign you a pilot to interview you. They only interviewed if you met the minimums so don't fly out somewhere if you don't. Then that pilot talks to you as a group and gets you to interact with eachother. Then they sit down individually and ask questions like, why SkyWest, what is your experience, when can you start. After all that, if they liked you, you were invited to a formal interview in SLC.

However, it is my understanding that Mesa will not invite you to their hub but do it all there. Read the gouges because everyone I know that interviewed at Mesa said it was identical to the gouges. Prepare yourself for the ATP written because that will eliminate a lof of pilots. My friend said about 3-4 out of 20 went home after the test.

I also think it is worth it to fill out the application online before you go. If you can print it and bring it with you.

Good luck and be prepared for a lot of bashing for you for even applying. I don't think anyone can judge anyone else for wanting a job right now in the current state of this economy. However, do your homework on this company. There are a few pilots on here that are at Mesa and will tell you the good and bad. Of course the good is fast upgrades and the bad is the pay and less time off.
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Old 07-26-2008 | 10:29 AM
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I'm interviewing at Mesa in Sept! See everyone there!
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Old 07-26-2008 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by theman
I'm interviewing at Mesa in Sept! See everyone there!
Wow...never seen so many so excited for a shot with the ugly fat girl!

Anyone know if they still charge the $50 fee to interview? Do they charge it at the group interviews? JO himself probably mans a table at the front door and laughs at you as he takes your money...
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