No, that will just **** off people too because Hops and grains are geting too expensive.

Maybe a tree?

 

And a new hire Mesa FO that quits his CFI gig and then gets furloughed will pay the bills?

I find that hard to believe.

 

Well, I spoke to soon, it wasn't just a pink slip for furlough. It was a "probationary pilots can be fired at any time" FU from the regional.

So this top tier regional is reducing headcount by firing new-hires two weeks short of their one-year anniversary and out of seniority order.

No, I'm not naming it. I'll let others start squawking and naming names when they get the pink slip.

Thanks for all those that have provided decent comments. If, and that's a big "if", Mesa considers me worthy and doesn't furlough first, I'll be headed for the Dash, but most likely end up wherever they want me.

 

Easy there turbo. No one accused you of applying at GoJet or being a scab nor did I accuse ANYONE at Mesa or GoJets of crossing a picket line or being a scab. In the future, I'd appreciate it if you would actually read what I posted and not fly off the handle with false accusations and putting words in my mouth (or on my screen?). I'm a pipe-hitting union member just like most here and DEFINITELY know when and where the term scab should be applied (and one of my pet peeves is that it gets thrown around FAR to loosely here on the boards and in the crew room). All I meant was that I have heard the EXACT arguments you used WORD FOR WORD come from the mouths of GoGetters and CAL scabs. One more time for your benefit, I never said you, anyone at Mesa, or anyone at GoJets are scabs. So relax.

You do contradict yourself a bit, saying a regional is what it is, they all suck, stepping stone, get in get out, blah blah blah. Then you turn around and tell me not to call someone a scab because timing isn't on their side (which I didn't) and acknowledge that 1000 hours isn't the magic number it used to be. Boo hoo. You are better off flying the patch a bit longer and waiting for the right company to come around rather than jumping at the first thing that says comes along. Chances are you will be at a regional longer than you thought so you better pick a good one. I know when I got on here at XJT upgrades were running right at 2 years or just a bit under. I'm now midway through my third year with no upgrade in sight. Same for my friends over at RAH. I know sitting over there in the right seat of that Piper or Cessna it feels like the bar is about to close and you have to go home with one of the obnoxious fat girls that are left but guess what, the bar will be open again tomorrow night. And most of the pretty girls will be back and maybe your luck will be better. I know for me personally, I'd rather go home alone than go home with the fat chick, have her go crazy and tie me up in her bedroom, make me her man-kitty play thing and not be able to get out for 10 years. Places like Mesa are that fat girl. Some guys are into that. I'm not. Strange analogy, I know, but it's been concocted over too many nights spent in hotel bars and when you think about it, it works.

Cheers and good luck with your career.

 

Most likely!? You can count on it! And if its more convenient for Johnny O to ship you over to China, then you better learn Chinese labor law (won't take you long, its a quick read).

I'm not sure what you have to hide from but saying what company you work for might add some credibility to your claim. Unless the 5 digits after "maria" are your employee number or something, I think your anonymity will be preserved.

 

Exactly how do we help you build a higher quality contract at this time? Is there any progress that MAG ALPA is making against JO? How strong is your MEC, really? Your previous MEC chairs just plain left the company because they know they can't win against JO.

We're open to suggestion but if JO had it, he would have you working for less. Let us ALPA brothers and sisters know how we can help raise your 8 days off a month.

PS- Any pilot that bid to fly in Hawaii DID have everything to do with go! getting started out there. Sure, your slimy management never would have made it out there without pilots, but he sure did find some!

Defending Mesa is impossible, so why do you do it? My take is that for every day that you work for Mesa and keep it running, you are supporting the race to the bottom. I don't think I am the only one with that view.

 

Ahhhh, "top tier regionals" don't fire probationary pilots just to reduce the workforce. That's something crapbag companies do. Share with us the name of your employer, if you do indeed have one.

 

Well is Eagle considered top tier because I know someone that had it happen to them at Eagle after 9/11. I think managment will do whatever they think they can get away with. They don't mind ruining someone's life if it saves a few bucks.

 

That is a HYSTERICAL analogy! Go home alone (CFI longer) go home with the fat girl (Mesa.)

 

HA! Oh man you have no idea... Dash is senior be prepared to have no life for at least 2 years. I was a mesa pilot, I have no regrets so far in my short aviation career because through it all I've gotten some good experience and met interesting people. However the only thing that I could have done differently was to never have gone to MESA. In hind sight instructing would have been better, financially and mentally. Don't be stuck at Mesa for years because you couldn't get a job in the summer of 08.