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Guys, we're entering a downturn in our industry of epic proportions, we haven't begun to see the worst of it, in fact, it hasn't even begun yet. Several waves of furloughs at many carriers will take place, flooding an already saturated market w/ more qualified pilots looking for work that won't exist.
So get in while you can, if flying 121 pax is what you would like to do. There is no time to be picky, it will likely be several years before any appreciable hiring resumes as fuel prices and severe downturn in the economy will stifle commercial travel in our country through, optimistically, 2010. Get in while you can, or be prepared to wait it out into the next decade (Assuming your goal is to stay here in the U.S.). It's your choice. |
Originally Posted by The Duke
(Post 428764)
Guys, we're entering a downturn in our industry of epic proportions, we haven't begun to see the worst of it, in fact, it hasn't even begun yet. Several waves of furloughs at many carriers will take place, flooding an already saturated market w/ more qualified pilots looking for work that won't exist.
So get in while you can, if flying 121 pax is what you would like to do. There is no time to be picky, it will likely be several years before any appreciable hiring resumes as fuel prices and severe downturn in the economy will stifle commercial travel in our country through, optimistically, 2010. Get in while you can, or be prepared to wait it out into the next decade (Assuming your goal is to stay here in the U.S.). It's your choice. |
Which of the “top-tier” regionals pinked you? This an anonymous forum, we don't know you, so why not tell? |
Originally Posted by Gchamp3
(Post 428521)
We should have less threads about Mesa and more threads about beer.
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RAH has fired probationary pilots in the past to cut a fleet type.
Here's my doomsday scenario.... Scores of furloughed pilots swell Mesa's ranks allowing them to properly staff and operate their airline. This keeps you on the street from your "good" job until the next round of feed contracts. At this point, Mesa has the manpower to bid seriously and low balls the competition. Now the furloughs become permanent and Mesa rules the industry once again. Dark enough for ya? Don't help JO by working for Mesa when furloughed. You can make more stocking shelves at Home Depot. The goal is to squeeze JO with staffing into improve the QOL (probably not gonna happen) or BK. |
Originally Posted by cbire880
(Post 428979)
RAH has fired probationary pilots in the past to cut a fleet type.
Here's my doomsday scenario.... Scores of furloughed pilots swell Mesa's ranks allowing them to properly staff and operate their airline. This keeps you on the street from your "good" job until the next round of feed contracts. At this point, Mesa has the manpower to bid seriously and low balls the competition. Now the furloughs become permanent and Mesa rules the industry once again. Dark enough for ya? Don't help JO by working for Mesa when furloughed. You can make more stocking shelves at Home Depot. The goal is to squeeze JO with staffing into improve the QOL (probably not gonna happen) or BK. |
Originally Posted by Gchamp3
(Post 428521)
We should have less threads about Mesa and more threads about beer.
Or we could all sit around, drink beer and bash Mesa together.. |
Originally Posted by FL450
(Post 428824)
Not too private when you have your name and birth date as your username :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by nwa757
(Post 428715)
Ahhhh, "top tier regionals" don't fire probationary pilots just to reduce the workforce. That's something crapbag companies do.
It seems that many of the posters on this thread are regional FO's. Not to disparage regional FO's, but, chances are, they're inexperienced - in life, in flying, and in the industry. These are not generally the guys you want to take advice from. However, they were recently in the same position as you, trying to secure employment @ a regional, so they are a lot closer to the decision you are making than a guy flying widebody international stuff. My advice to those who are considering working for Mesa: listen to the guys who say "I work @ Mesa, ask me what you want to know”. Guys like ‘The Duke’, ‘sidestep’, and ‘Paxhauler’ – all acknowledge that they are CA’s @ Mesa right now. They’ve been through the good times and the bad times @ Mesa. Go interview @ Mesa if you're even possibly interested - if you don't like it, don't take the job. It's that easy. But don't ever make a decision on a company based on what you read on these forums - including what I say. You gotta' do your due diligence and make the decisions for yourself. |
Originally Posted by Sniper
(Post 429184)
AirTran is threatening to fire probationary pilots just to reduce the workforce at this very moment. Know any AirTran guys (a “crapbag company”) that have left for XJet (a “top tier regional”)? Me either.
It seems that many of the posters on this thread are regional FO's. Not to disparage regional FO's, but, chances are, they're inexperienced - in life, in flying, and in the industry. These are not generally the guys you want to take advice from. However, they were recently in the same position as you, trying to secure employment @ a regional, so they are a lot closer to the decision you are making than a guy flying widebody international stuff. My advice to those who are considering working for Mesa: listen to the guys who say "I work @ Mesa, ask me what you want to know”. Guys like ‘The Duke’, ‘sidestep’, and ‘Paxhauler’ – all acknowledge that they are CA’s @ Mesa right now. They’ve been through the good times and the bad times @ Mesa. Go interview @ Mesa if you're even possibly interested - if you don't like it, don't take the job. It's that easy. But don't ever make a decision on a company based on what you read on these forums - including what I say. You gotta' do your due diligence and make the decisions for yourself. Very well said Sniper....Thank You. |
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