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Old 07-30-2008 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Windsor
If McCain is in office, we (all pilots) are screwed because he is anti-pilot.
That would be ironic, since Big John is, of course, an ex-Naval aviator.
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Old 07-30-2008 | 02:53 PM
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That would be ironic, since Big John is, of course, an ex-Naval aviator.
Bush was an ex-ANG aviator. Nobody would accuse him of being pro-pilot. Your point?

Look at the history of what bills McCain has introduced in the Senate -- one of which would strip our right to strike and commit the pilot groups to baseball-style arbitration after a short negotiation period. If you think arbitration is fair, talk to an Alaska pilot.
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Old 07-30-2008 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Airsupport
jan of 05 is when the negotiations started. became amendable in may of 05
Sorry to say but your brothers over at ASA made contract negotiations drag out for over 5 years. So why would Pinnacle mgmt or the nmb think they need to do anything faster? You have a few years left, I would be pleasantly surprised if anything happened before 2011.
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Old 07-30-2008 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by pokey9554
How long has Pinnacle been in negotiations? That sounds like bargaining in bad faith to me. 9 hours and the GM workers got what they wanted. I hope the pilots do get released. Good luck to them.
GM workers can also walk off the job and bring the lines to a screeching halt any time they wish. It's time to repeal the RLA.

Read McCain's 2001 letter regarding pilots. If you think he's pro-pilot or for that matter, pro-labor you have another thing coming. Best part, his son is an airline pilot.
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Old 07-30-2008 | 04:07 PM
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Vacation time... Lets get what we're worth!
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Old 07-30-2008 | 04:29 PM
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WHEN do the next negotiations take place?
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Old 07-30-2008 | 06:55 PM
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Aug. 25 in DC.
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Old 07-31-2008 | 08:02 AM
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Mesaba was released in 2004 during the Bush administration. PCL mgmt will not settle until they HAVE TO. Nothing new here... same old dirty tactics.
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Old 07-31-2008 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by sweptback
Bush was an ex-ANG aviator. Nobody would accuse him of being pro-pilot. Your point?

Look at the history of what bills McCain has introduced in the Senate -- one of which would strip our right to strike and commit the pilot groups to baseball-style arbitration after a short negotiation period. If you think arbitration is fair, talk to an Alaska pilot.
If McCain is anti-pilot it would surprise me. The example of him being a naval aviator aside, I think it would cause some family tensions that I don't think have happened. His son is, and has been for a very long time, an airline pilot. He is a very senior FO, by choice because he likes his schedule and QOL, with a Major. I have known him for more than half my life and can say that he is very supportive of his father's campaign. I am honestly not sure I have heard him speak negative, and we do talk aviation considering our careers.
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Old 08-01-2008 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Pilotpip
Read McCain's 2001 letter regarding pilots. If you think he's pro-pilot or for that matter, pro-labor you have another thing coming. Best part, his son is an airline pilot.
Care to link us? I tried doing a quick Google search but couldn't find anything.
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