Rude Jumpseaters
08-07-2008, 08:37 AM
#23
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Its always nice when a pilot in uniform stops up to say "Hi" even if they are just a non-rev (frac's excluded) or a deadhead. I do tend to get annoyed when I see entire crew's getting off my plane and none of them had the common courtesy to say "Hi".
As Captains, its our responsibility to help new F.O's understand the jump seating process. Sadly, a lot of guys are coming out of class with no clue how to jump seat properly.
As Captains, its our responsibility to help new F.O's understand the jump seating process. Sadly, a lot of guys are coming out of class with no clue how to jump seat properly.
How are we supposed to know which you are? Thats why I've only introduced myself when I'm actually using jumpseat privs.
As for J/S etiquette I had no idea what to say the first few times I jumped - so if the guy coming up is real young or obviously new try to cut him a little slack eh?
Last edited by Phuz; 08-07-2008 at 08:40 AM. Reason: cant say p!ssed on teh foremz
08-07-2008, 10:26 AM
#24
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If I'm riding for free (jumpseat or non-rev) I always say hi to the entire crew. This includes the F/As. As others have said, it's not a right. There have been many times that this gesture has resulted in the F/A's letting me sit up in first class if there's an open seat or getting one of those little box meals that they charge pax for for free. It's not a big deal, but after a long day that bigger seat or a little food goes a long way. Oh, and I cross seatbelts as I leave too.
Also never had a problem with a gate agent, then again, I'm overly nice with them too. While it's not their right to say who goes and doesn't go it can make a big difference when they're having a rough day.
Also never had a problem with a gate agent, then again, I'm overly nice with them too. While it's not their right to say who goes and doesn't go it can make a big difference when they're having a rough day.
08-07-2008, 10:27 AM
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08-07-2008, 12:58 PM
#26
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Its always nice when a pilot in uniform stops up to say "Hi" even if they are just a non-rev (frac's excluded) or a deadhead. I do tend to get annoyed when I see entire crew's getting off my plane and none of them had the common courtesy to say "Hi".
As Captains, its our responsibility to help new F.O's understand the jump seating process. Sadly, a lot of guys are coming out of class with no clue how to jump seat properly.
As Captains, its our responsibility to help new F.O's understand the jump seating process. Sadly, a lot of guys are coming out of class with no clue how to jump seat properly.
08-07-2008, 01:37 PM
#27
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Don't worry. If you're a commuter, someday you'll run into a gate agent that is bent at the world and would keep Mother Theresa herself from asking the captain for a ride. It doesn't matter if you're extra-nice with sugar on top, for some reason that gate agent WILL NOT let you down.
08-07-2008, 04:58 PM
#28
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Gentlemen:
Just my two cents from someone who has been in this business for awhile.
The comments made before are all valid. Jumpseating is a priviledge. Period. It isn't a God given "right" and the jumpseater is a guest of the Captain no matter what written agreements are in place.
For what it's worth, I've always introduced myself to the Captain and asked for the jumpseat. I'm a guest whether if it's a flag international carrier going to Europe or a regional carrier going to BFE. Be polite and thank the flight attendant as well. You'd be surprised how many free snacks, bottles of water, even mini liquor bottles (if you remember those) for your layover one gets. At the end of the flight wait until everyone else is off the aircraft and personally thank the Captain for the ride. Little things mean a lot and going out of your way to express your gratitude goes a hell of a long way towards getting you to your destination. By being polite, I was put on a F/A jumpseat when there wasn't a "regular" seat and even was on a 737 with 110 souls onboard and 109 seats.
I also agree that "Jumpseating 101" should be addressed in every Basic Indoc class. Period.
In 18+ yrs, I only had to refuse the jumpseat twice and most folks were really nice.
Just my two cents.
G'Day mates !!
Just my two cents from someone who has been in this business for awhile.
The comments made before are all valid. Jumpseating is a priviledge. Period. It isn't a God given "right" and the jumpseater is a guest of the Captain no matter what written agreements are in place.
For what it's worth, I've always introduced myself to the Captain and asked for the jumpseat. I'm a guest whether if it's a flag international carrier going to Europe or a regional carrier going to BFE. Be polite and thank the flight attendant as well. You'd be surprised how many free snacks, bottles of water, even mini liquor bottles (if you remember those) for your layover one gets. At the end of the flight wait until everyone else is off the aircraft and personally thank the Captain for the ride. Little things mean a lot and going out of your way to express your gratitude goes a hell of a long way towards getting you to your destination. By being polite, I was put on a F/A jumpseat when there wasn't a "regular" seat and even was on a 737 with 110 souls onboard and 109 seats.
I also agree that "Jumpseating 101" should be addressed in every Basic Indoc class. Period.
In 18+ yrs, I only had to refuse the jumpseat twice and most folks were really nice.
Just my two cents.
G'Day mates !!
08-07-2008, 05:03 PM
#29
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Well, she is more of an idiot than the rude jumpseater. The airlines have jumpseat coordinators for this type stuff for it to be handled in an appropriate manner. All this idiot captain is doing is eventually screwing her own.
Now that captain will not allow anyone from that airline in her jumpseat. 
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