Rude Jumpseaters
08-06-2008, 06:21 PM
#1
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Rude Jumpseaters
Today I heard two stories of fellow pilots among us that were rude. One was toward a fellow jumpseater and the other toward the captain of the flight I was on today. 
Now that captain will not allow anyone from that airline in her jumpseat. I don't understand what the problem is out there, but jumpseating is a privilege not a right. Some of you need to get your heads out of you butts and start acting like professionals. Thank you, I just needed to get that off my chest. If anyone has anything to add please feel free to comment.
Now that captain will not allow anyone from that airline in her jumpseat. I don't understand what the problem is out there, but jumpseating is a privilege not a right. Some of you need to get your heads out of you butts and start acting like professionals. Thank you, I just needed to get that off my chest. If anyone has anything to add please feel free to comment.
08-07-2008, 05:24 AM
#7
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Funny thing is this is an example of a poor decision by the jumpseater and an ever poorer response by the Capt.
08-07-2008, 05:31 AM
#8
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Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: B-767 Captain
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Jumpseats
Gentlemen:
Just my two cents from someone who has been in this business for awhile.
The comments made before are all valid. Jumpseating is a priviledge. Period. It isn't a God given "right" and the jumpseater is a guest of the Captain no matter what written agreements are in place.
For what it's worth, I've always introduced myself to the Captain and asked for the jumpseat. I'm a guest whether if it's a flag international carrier going to Europe or a regional carrier going to BFE. Be polite and thank the flight attendant as well. You'd be surprised how many free snacks, bottles of water, even mini liquor bottles (if you remember those) for your layover one gets. At the end of the flight wait until everyone else is off the aircraft and personally thank the Captain for the ride. Little things mean a lot and going out of your way to express your gratitude goes a hell of a long way towards getting you to your destination. By being polite, I was put on a F/A jumpseat when there wasn't a "regular" seat and even was on a 737 with 110 souls onboard and 109 seats.
I also agree that "Jumpseating 101" should be addressed in every Basic Indoc class. Period.
In 18+ yrs, I only had to refuse the jumpseat twice and most folks were really nice.
Just my two cents.
G'Day mates !!
Just my two cents from someone who has been in this business for awhile.
The comments made before are all valid. Jumpseating is a priviledge. Period. It isn't a God given "right" and the jumpseater is a guest of the Captain no matter what written agreements are in place.
For what it's worth, I've always introduced myself to the Captain and asked for the jumpseat. I'm a guest whether if it's a flag international carrier going to Europe or a regional carrier going to BFE. Be polite and thank the flight attendant as well. You'd be surprised how many free snacks, bottles of water, even mini liquor bottles (if you remember those) for your layover one gets. At the end of the flight wait until everyone else is off the aircraft and personally thank the Captain for the ride. Little things mean a lot and going out of your way to express your gratitude goes a hell of a long way towards getting you to your destination. By being polite, I was put on a F/A jumpseat when there wasn't a "regular" seat and even was on a 737 with 110 souls onboard and 109 seats.
I also agree that "Jumpseating 101" should be addressed in every Basic Indoc class. Period.
In 18+ yrs, I only had to refuse the jumpseat twice and most folks were really nice.
Just my two cents.
G'Day mates !!
Last edited by Phantom Flyer; 08-07-2008 at 05:33 AM. Reason: spelling error
08-07-2008, 05:43 AM
#9
The NeverEnding Story
Joined APC: Sep 2005
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Professionalism is a two-way street.
Jumpseater rude to the Captain?
How hard is it for the CA to say "GTFO my airplane!" instead of passive-aggressively banning everybody from the offending party's company from the jumpseat?
Jumpseater not check in with the CA?
Are you sure it was a JS and not a pass rider or fractional pilot? If it really was a jumpseater, a 60 second etiquette lesson on JS procedure is well warranted.
Oh yeah, one more thing to new airline pilots - politely ask the CA for the jumpseat...BUT ALWAYS INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE FO!
Jumpseater rude to the Captain?
How hard is it for the CA to say "GTFO my airplane!" instead of passive-aggressively banning everybody from the offending party's company from the jumpseat?
Jumpseater not check in with the CA?
Are you sure it was a JS and not a pass rider or fractional pilot? If it really was a jumpseater, a 60 second etiquette lesson on JS procedure is well warranted.
Oh yeah, one more thing to new airline pilots - politely ask the CA for the jumpseat...BUT ALWAYS INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE FO!
08-07-2008, 06:18 AM
#10
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Its always nice when a pilot in uniform stops up to say "Hi" even if they are just a non-rev (frac's excluded) or a deadhead. I do tend to get annoyed when I see entire crew's getting off my plane and none of them had the common courtesy to say "Hi".
As Captains, its our responsibility to help new F.O's understand the jump seating process. Sadly, a lot of guys are coming out of class with no clue how to jump seat properly.
As Captains, its our responsibility to help new F.O's understand the jump seating process. Sadly, a lot of guys are coming out of class with no clue how to jump seat properly.
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