Read the entire post before making generalized statements. Otherwise don't waste our time on this thread and go to your own company thread and waste your time there. You just sound like a self righteous idiot.

No one here suggested getting more airplanes at the expense of NWA is a good thing. No one is taking anything away from anybody. Mesaba is getting more airplanes because NWA management decided to, not because anybody at Mesaba had any say in it.

Well don't you feel smart seeing bne744 flys one of the jets for Mesaba. Maybe you should go get a beer and chill out...or are you one of those that is too young to do that.

bne744 and the rest are correct. What is the point of getting more jets that takes away from mainline flying. We want better, high paying jobs and we are just bleeding all those opportunities away. There are too many jet guys that are whining about how they never fly and hate sitting reserve. Guess what....you don't like it......QUIT, there are a whole bunch of people sitting in a hiring pool that will gladly take your spot. The last thing we need is a bunch of whining jet pilots that possibly drag down other pilot's moral. I am senior to all but about 30 jet FOs and could have taken it when they opened up the classes but guess what, I make more money on the saab and at the end of the day....its a job and an airplane, I would rather be sitting on the beach in Mexico sipping a drink than getting myself off in the front of a 900.

I do have to say though.....if the decision has been made to hand out more aircraft, well I hope we get them but either way I would rather the flying stay at mainline because that is where the money is made.

Well it sounds like you are the kind of person I am talking about in my post....I am in no way trying to be negative towards any one of our pilots there are just some people who are too caught up in the fact they are flying a jet that they don't even realize that they are getting paid to do it, and would probably do it for free, the industry is not going to go anywhere with people like that....and there was mention on here of Mesaba getting the CRJ1000, now I don't know of one regional that flies anymore than a 76-seat plane, Majors have scope clauses in their contracts for a reason because if they weren't there Mesaba would be flying 747s to Tokyo and the 2 pilots combined would be making $100/hr, thats why Mgmt likes regionals because the labor is so much cheaper and maybe you should look in the mirror before you go off calling someone a self-righteous idiot....

No kidding. If that were the case I think it'd be dang near unanimous that we'd have the Avros back instead of the CRJ's
I'd certainly vote to get the CVG base back and be flying overnights to OKC again.... neither of which I see happening anytime soon.....

where did u get your info... some senior capt?
Many people are going to be lucky to have jobs post-merger... let alone a flow-throw...

ah you need to check your facts. Was in recurrent and Nagle came in with the details.....the flow stays for us as well as Compass as long as the new contract is signed, there is no reason for them to get rid of it.....its job security for mainline guys. One thing i did find out was that we have a reset clause in ours. This means if NWA flows back into our 18 current flow slots and then brings them back, those flow seniority numbers disappear and no one can flow back into them again. Everytime the cycle changes from furlough back to hiring, the slots are erased. This is different from the Compass agreement as the slots do not reset so they can keep flowing back into same slots indefinitely.

Bottom line...I'm sooo glad we have all the smart people at our airline...so I can go to work, do my job, come home and get on with my life....It's nice being near the top!!

FYI, US Airways (AWA) scope allows 86 seats and Mesa fly's their CR9's config'd to 86. Sad.

I reckon ya'll have a hardon for flow thru.. I don't get it? Who care about flow thru.

Who cares about a flow thru? Is that a serious question? When NWA was hiring it was a good thing for about 12 folks (can't remember the exact number). They got jobs at NWA and likely have improved their quality of life and career prospects. If they hadn't stopped hiring the flow would have continued to provide better jobs for the folks that flowed, movement on the list at XJ benefiting most people and just the all around idea of something to look forward to. I'm sure the argument now against the flow is "look at those guys now... facing furlough at the bottom of the list." Those that flow were likely pursuing other opportunities at the same time. They'd be in the same position they are today if they quit and went somewhere else. CO? DL? UA? Same smell. Only this time they have furlough protection in the form of a flowback.

Yes, there is a flow back, but that is only fair. Why should the NWA pilots have given us a sweet deal that was one sided? Yes, hiring has stopped but when the deal was signed we were in the midst of a hiring boom at all airlines and we were all finally getting back to normal. Then oil sky rocketed and pt a damper on things. I'm happy the flow through was structured the way it was for XJ pilots and am happy the flow thru will exist at the new Delta. Why wouldn't one be happy? If they don't like it, they don't have to participate. Simple as that.