I pray neither pilot group gives in on this one and hope that both come together to fight this one. Both have groups an intrest in this.

Sadly, we won't. And both sides are losing out.

I don't want my job saved only because I'm now a whipsaw.

 

We've all been whipsaw's since we've been on the seniority list. Get used to it.

 

Great attitude!!!

 

I don't like the fact that I make what I do. I'd much rather be flying these things without the "express" tag on the side. Different arguement for a different time.

This thing is different than the traditional codeshare. We're whipsawing them, and they could end up flying our aircraft in violation of our contract.

No matter what, both groups lose.

 

I dont post much here anymore, I have grown tired of the bad news in the industry and usually me on this site leads to me growing bitter but this news sums it all up. Airline management will continue to farm out flying to regional guys if they are able to operate the flights for lower cost. The major reason they are able to do that is because they pay labor such low wages. The majority of pilots accept low wages (including myself) in hopes of gaining experience and moving on to a major airline.......................GUESS WHAT FELLAS?, there will no longer be any jobs at the major level.

I dont blame the RAH pilots, I blame the Midwest scum that are doing this to get around paying a fair wage to their pilots, I do expect RAH to raise the bar come contract time.....enough is enough I am thoroughly disgusted with this industry and I hope MIDWEST PILOTS stop showing up for work................then the airline could shut down and there will be no flying to ***** out, so be it if RAH furloughs.........I would much rather see a 20k a year guy furloughed then one at a Major level. In all honesty I would imagine RAH guys are embarrassed, I mean after all the 717 (Midwest configurations) arent much larger then the "E-JETS"

PS This is all predicated one who will actually be flying these planes, if its Midwest guys fine, if its RAH guys, I stand by my post above

I read this post on the XJT forum, and I think it sums it up very well

You guys, just wait till you see what United has in store for Republic. Watch another jets for jobs deal come out of that whole mess this year. That company is a virus and a cancer in this industry and will be the demise of our careers. The writing is on the wall and we are heading towards a new era in airline flying.

We have a bunch of failing major airlines being propped up by cheap, eager, opportunistic regional carriers who move in when the gettin is good. Just when a major is about to go toe up in swoops their savior, Republik...my balls...and takes over a huge chunk of flying the the major just couldn't support anymore. In turn, the major airline negotiates the contract down to the bare bones and the regional passes this down to the labor groups, and the beat goes on, and on.

Meanwhile, said labor group watches their company grow, expand and prosper, yet continually fails to negotiate a contract remotly approaching the rates proportionate to the flying they are now doing inplace of their brother that came before them.

Have fun Republic. You guys are the demise of our industry. How many more 737 jobs can you diassemble? When will you step up and push back at your company that doesn't care about the history of airline piloting? When are you going to do your part, or are you going to just keep on taking?

 

Saab, you should see the discussion over @ RP.org. we've pretty much come to the same conclusion as here. this is an attempt to whipsaw Midwest and screw all of us over.

if any one knows if it's bad juju to post excerpts of your contract, i'll come back later and post the Scope section of ours. basically, if it's owned by RAH, then RAH pilots have to fly it. i can't see any way that if it were to go to court that they could get around it.

 

Enough is enough. I am happy to see the posts here that realize this is a whipsaw in the race to the bottom, and it's embarassing to see those of you that think this is good news for Republic.

When we all got into this field we were hoping to get on at a major some day. That's not going to happen if we keep flying LARGE regional jets for wages that are barely middle class.

The unions need to take a larger, more aggressive stance against this BS. Teamsters and ALPA both.

-XJT Furloughed: my job replaced by a non-union pilot who will fly a larger Continental Connection aircraft for less. Thanks guys.

 

I knew this was coming. Please do not take this out on our pilot group. Trust me, our pilot group is not embracing this with open arms. The only good this has to it is that RAH stops bleeding money cause planes are sitting on the ground. Doesn't put money in my pocket.

 

The way this industry is going, I swear to god in the fine print of our job description something similar to this must reside:

This industry makes me sick.

 

I agree completely. Not good for Midwest......and an eyesore for RAH. I hate the thought of ANY flightcrew on the street, pilot or fa alike.

With that being said, I don't make company policy, I don't choose what new business to pursue and possibly obtain, I just show up for work so I can get those kibbles on the 15th and the 30th, so I can feed my family.