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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
(Post 477551)
Why? That will prevent furloughs,it does creates additional vacancies. Its a win for us and a lost for TSA if you ask me.
It doesn't take into consideration the complete parking of all of the Saabs. |
Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
(Post 477551)
Why? That will prevent furloughs,it does creates additional vacancies. Its a win for us and a lost for TSA if you ask me.
(don't get me wrong, you guys deserve your planes back, however, as a pilot group, i'd be scared about getting them back) |
I really can't see AE getting those planes back and just standing up and saying "okay see ya 150-250 pilots." I believe that we get back two a month starting in January so by June of '09 we'll have all of them back on property. I think by then if we still aren't full in the ranks they will at least need to do a little hiring as rumored.
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At Eagle 20-30 guys a month CONSISTENTLY have left the company. Even in August my seniority number (on the Eagle side...can't see Executive in DECS) went up 20 numbers. At the rate of 2 planes a month it will take 5 months. Being pessimistic and assuming a rate of just 15 guys a month leaving for greener pastures Eagle would still be short on pilots or just a little fat. Over the last year I started at 2880 on October 29th 2007, I am now in the 2200 range. Again this is only on the Eagle side not including Executive.
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Originally Posted by captain152
(Post 477470)
I don't mean to sound like *****y little girl here ... but why are you so eager to work to Eagle? Unless you live in one of their base cities and just want to be close to your family, that's one thing. But they have, notoriously, the longest upgrade time in the industry, as well as one of the longest reserve times. From what I've heard from my buddies that work there, the contract is pretty good, so that's a plus. But if you're goal is to one day get to a major airline, I'm really not sure why you would want to sit through 6-8 years as a FO. Just my 2 cents. From what I've heard Eagle is a good company, just really rough on the reserve and upgrade times.
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Originally Posted by 250 or point 65
(Post 477566)
No, American having hired help (TSA) is preventing furloughs. With those planes back, they are free to furlough. You guys are parking planes and not furloughing, TSA having your planes is the reason. Now that you guys are getting the planes back, we're furloughing and you guys will be.
(don't get me wrong, you guys deserve your planes back, however, as a pilot group, i'd be scared about getting them back) Getting the planes back is EXACTLY why we never had any plans to furlough. Along with zero/part time lines, Severence packages and LOA's, We have mitigated any need for a furlough. I for one never even heard any ACTUAL talk of a furlough. Just a lot of rumors. But getting those planes back creates MORE jobs for EAGLE pilots. I just dont see how you can think otherwise. Yes AMR could not furlough Eagle pilots while they are out-sourcing to TSA and RAH, but the ten planes create more opportunity on our side to do the feed for American. |
Originally Posted by 250 or point 65
(Post 477566)
No, American having hired help (TSA) is preventing furloughs. With those planes back, they are free to furlough. You guys are parking planes and not furloughing, TSA having your planes is the reason. Now that you guys are getting the planes back, we're furloughing and you guys will be.
(don't get me wrong, you guys deserve your planes back, however, as a pilot group, i'd be scared about getting them back) |
Originally Posted by Paok
(Post 477685)
I think at this point Comair has Eagle beat for upgrade and reserve :)
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Yes, I work for TSA. and i'll leave my prediction at that...just a prediction. we'll see what happens when they planes are back and furloughs are an option for the company.
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Originally Posted by 250 or point 65
(Post 477902)
Yes, I work for TSA. and i'll leave my prediction at that...just a prediction. we'll see what happens when they planes are back and furloughs are an option for the company.
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