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withthatsaid182 i believe is based or was based there, he might have the best answer for you...what I've read here is because the increased flying in the northeast (~1000 hrs) and the JFK opening I heard they're keeping it open but not as big as before.

as far as the hiring goes, I had a buddy stop by a career fair at Riddle and they told him that were collecting resumes for a hiring pool that we already have and they said as early as march but probably by may.

but who knows tomorrow could be different

this is the first time i feel important on APC...

as a legal resident of the boston crewroom i can tell you that boston is definitely not going to be like it used to...whether it completely closes is another story.

the jfk bid packs did come out yesterday and the different base seniority lists as of november have been posted. so yes jfk appears to be a go as of november 1st...how it works out is going to be another story. i know a lot of guys in boston are going to be back on reserve during november and december while the rest file down towards new york.

the guys i feel for are those who have been at eagle for quite some time and have homes in maine, nh, and mass. that have worked to make boston arguably the best base in the system...now these guys have to start commuting, downgrading or sitting reserve all over again.

one guy put it best the other day when he said "15 years? That doesn't mean much around here..."

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Originally Posted by withthatsaid182 (Post 480830)

one guy put it best the other day when he said "15 years? That doesn't mean much around here..."

sure it does...it means you're about to upgrade!

15 years doesn't mean much to anyone anymore. The second you decide to leave wherever your at for "greener" pastures, you start back at the bottom of the barrel. If you stay where you're at, you're lucky to make more than 80k a year.

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Originally Posted by PIPErdrvr (Post 480531)

I have to disagree. I mean, how much more can you squeeze out of a 96-99% pass rating. the new guys are just as likely to pass training as a vet, in my opinion. So it makes more sense to me to get a better return on the investment and hire the young folks.

You're missing the point. The return on investment is done after year two. You've paid for yourself and made them money. After that, it is cheaper to pay a new hire to do your job. They don't really care if your 250 hours, or 1700 hours. Their concern is that you pass training, and hopefully will leave in a few years. That being the case, they are better off with people who have 1,000 plus hours when hired, since those are the ones that will be marketable to other places in a few years.... they also have already demonstrated the ability to pass a 121 training program. They are a much better risk.

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Originally Posted by 250 or point 65 (Post 480850)

sure it does...it means you're about to upgrade!

The most recent vacancy/displacement shows around 40~ CA upgrades.

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Originally Posted by grahamlax (Post 479642)

Is Eagle hiring? Or anyone? Any chance of me getting hired in the near future? I have 660TT, 330ME, 350 Dual given, CFII, MEI. I'm getting really antsy to get out of the flight instructing world and in to the airlines, any suggestions?

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Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 479697)

I'm not sure if this is flamebait or not, but in answer to your question, I think the days of being hired with less than 1000/250 are all but gone for at least the next several years. There are so many pilots on the street right now that we are seeing heavy iron guys with tens of thousands of hours taking new hire jobs regionals... so, when hiring does resume, you will have very stiff competition for the few jobs.

Not necessarily true, there are some people in my Mesaba class that have way less than 1000/250 hours. In fact a lot less... It was explained to us today that they're not really hiring us because of the hours and a lot of other things are factored. However don't get me wrong, not too many people are hiring and Mesaba is getting more selective in their calling to interview process. They told us that they receive 200 resumes per week. I can only imagine what process they use to find applicants.

so whats goin on with the new vacancy/displacement bid???

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Originally Posted by jaded (Post 482584)

If the reason you want to get in the airlines is because you're "getting ansty" then you should rethink the whole situation because if at 350 hours you're getting burned out, try sitting reserve for months on end (in this industry right now possibly years), trying to commute and not having a choice to be with your family on holidays or special occations. You might start feeling more than antsy and wishing you can still make flight instructor wages and with full control over your schedule.

Not necessarily true, there are some people in my Mesaba class that have way less than 1000/250 hours. In fact a lot less... It was explained to us today that they're not really hiring us because of the hours and a lot of other things are factored. However don't get me wrong, not too many people are hiring and Mesaba is getting more selective in their calling to interview process. They told us that they receive 200 resumes per week. I can only imagine what process they use to find applicants.

Did anyone indicate how long and how many more pilots Mesaba plans to hire? I'm supposed to start class there on the 17th.

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Originally Posted by DGFlyer03 (Post 483220)

Did anyone indicate how long and how many more pilots Mesaba plans to hire? I'm supposed to start class there on the 17th.

Ummm, you could try asking in one of the Mesaba threads.....